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How to Recapitulate?
I`m trying to find a concise method of how to go about Recapitulation. I have not read all CC books yet.
Which books explain recapitulation the most fully?
(firefox – I remember you gave me some details on this ages ago some of which I read – then I lost the email)
Is there anywhere on the net where there`s a concise description of how to go about it?
If not, is anyone willing to have a stab at creating one?
Should I read all the books before I begin?
Thanks
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just curious..
i’ve read a couple of carlos’s books, and have browsed the internet on the topics, and i’ve heard talk of the world of inorganic beings. does anyone think its possible that we can make ourselves open for these beings to cross over to us. for example, by taking a heavy dose of salvia divinorum. in hindsight i get the feeling i shouldnt have put myself in such a position, but it was an oddexperience, and the above idea had crossed my mind.
Excessive Controls?
Why does the board administration here require all new potential board users to first gain his / her personal permission before beginning to post?
Is the administrator here an insecure control freak, or is there perhaps some other more reasonable explanation?
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Isolation
I think it was in the last CC that his isolation was discussed in some detail? He did it in some rank motel room.
In 1999 I rented the crummiest, remotest little cottage I could find, it was in September, early spring. Located on the coast, the bungalow didn’t even have a sea view. I removed all the labels from the supplies and there was no tv, radio or books. I had a small pencil and a piece of cardboard, for the first 3 days I wrote down the names of all the people I had ever met. I had no clock, by the forth day, I was running out of stuff to do in a big way, time felt long and I was feeling more and more unsettled and uneasy. I had used the list of names to neutralize my connections, I did a lot of recapitulating. When I finished the list I ceremoniously burnt it. By the 5th day my mind was just non-stop ‘voice’ angry about being wronged by other people, this went on for 3 days, when the blaming other people was exhausted, the voice started to blame myself, I started to see my stupid, unconscious ways and how I had failed myself – this went on till about the 11th day. looking back on that part, it was horrible, difficult but completely do-able. Besides the angry thoughts, jealous thoughts and panic-attacks, the voice also gives you great reasons to stop the isolation, you have to struggle to dismiss the voice and you really don’t want to be there, when you begin to get close to a real commitment to this life, it becomes daunting and downright frightening and the ‘voice’ knows what strings to pull!! By the 12th day I was through the scary part and I felt bouyant, I was at peace with my history and I had finished fighting myself – Durin the next 4 days I didn’t think about how ‘light’ and content I was, it was only after, that I remember how in the moment I was. I was thoroughly enjoying my own company, my voice was hilarious. The days just sailed past, and I was at ease just doing nothing, I sat and my mind just travelled. On the 16th day, I was making lunch and my head said something to me, about leaving but the way and how it was said was really clever, not intelligent clever, but the words were like a trick, an embedded command, it was compelling. I can’t remember the sentence, but in that moment I knew that the voice in my head was not me, the voice had for the first time said something apart from who i think I am – I stumble backwards with a look of surprise on my face, it wasn’t scary or distressing as I had imagined it to be. I felt happy that I had a friend along with me, it really started to dawn upon me that were attached to creatures that are old and know a whole lot(besides being indulgent and lazy). I did 26 days in total, a week short of my agreed time. The last week I really got a good view of how we ‘f*ck ourselves up socially, I realized that the ‘voices’ work together and that we have our friends worst interests at heart.
The sense of what alone is, can only be experienced, alone when you are surrounded with people is how I felt, like how a sober hobo might feel in big city.
Re-entering society after isolation is scary, mostly for the people around you – I learned that a time of ‘debriefing’ is needed or your likely to scare friends and colleagues away – They all seemed different to me and I started to separate from friendships, some separations were painfull, the debriefing would have helped a lot.
In 2002 I did another Isolation, in the desert, going for a more purist view of nothingness, it was both hugely entertaining and super frightening in different ways to the first one but it’s not something I want to share with anyone, it is something personally powerful for me.
If anyone wants my thoughts and advice on Isolation, If you’re serious about the breaking point, I can facilitate you, I have a ‘voice-proof’ isolation that takes 6 weeks(4 weeks Isolation and 2 weeks debriefing/holiday) in the Richtersveld desert in Northern Cape, SA. Far less expensive than any other 6week holiday and way more beautiful and rewarding.
Phil
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Hello all
My name is Philip, 38.
I got introduced to CC when I was 25, in South Africa, I haven’t had to much luck in connecting with like-minded people so my path has been a solitary one, so far – I am particularly satisfied with my development thus far, I practice the passes and regularly learn new ones – they work!(my friends laugh me off though) I recapitulate ‘heavy-events’ and I have recapitulated all my significant emotional events. I have done 2 isolation stints, the first was 24days and it changed me forever! the second was a more ‘purist’ isolation, in the desert and I scared the b-gsus outta myself, but I had fun and laughed a lot. I did the NLP practitioner and master practitioner courses in 98 & 99 – worthwhile and I drew a lot of parallels between stalking and NLP, on the same courses I did a hypnotherapy cert. and a time-line therapy course – Time-line therapy is a lot like recapitulation but not as complete, (T-L doesn’t purposefully advocate recapitulating your whole life) I did some other weird courses in JHB that helped but in small ways, not as profound as some of CC’s clan experienced.
As a ‘bread-winner’ I design certain aspects of process plants, piping and instrumentation, mainly in the petro-chemical Ind.
My other interests besides my personal growth, collecting Vespa’s, gardening, DIY stuff(love tools), dry-stone-walling.
I run a small charity that helps and facilitates empowerment in a community of Nama-bushmen peoples(+-3000) in the far northern cape -they live a very frugal and isolated life in the desert.
I am easy going with people, I have learned that it is better to be sincerely ‘shallow’ with most people as there aren’t to many ‘brave’, open souls that can accept my ‘deeper’ interests – but it’s ok, I have an open relationship with my internal dialogue and it’s enough just to have one good friend!
And besides the face of responsibility and seriousness, I am a mischievous idiot that goes headlong into some scary hair-brained pursuits, the few friends I have left, say very little anymore but they give full attention and laugh a lot!
regards!
CONSULTA URGENTE…
HOLA A TODOS……….ESPERO Q’ PUEDA ENCONTRAR UNA RESPUESTA A ESTO Q’ DA VUELTAS EN MI CABEZA YA HACE VARIOS AÑOS.
LA HISTORIA SE REMONTA A 5 AÑOS ATRAS……CONOCI UNA MUJER Q’ DECIA SER PSICOLOGA Y CHAMAN…..SIEMPRE CON UNA POSTURA APARENTEMENTE SERIA…….RESULTA Q’ LA PRIMERA CHARLA Q’ TENGO CON ELLA…….NO PODIA NI SIQUIERA MIRARME A LOS OJOS. MUY RARO EN UNA PERSONA DE ESA INDOLE……….SUPUESTAMENTE CON UN PODER ENTRE MANOS……..SIN DUDA LO TENIA, PERO NO ERA LO Q’ ESPERABA.
YO MUY INEXPERTO NO LE DI MUCHA IMPORTANCIA Y QUEDE MAS ENCANTADO X TODO EL CONOCIMIENTO Q’ ELLA ME PODIA BRINDAR……ESTUVE 3 AÑOS EN TERAPIA CONSTANTE CON ESTA “PSICOLOGA/CHAMAN”…………..EN ESE PERIODO, PERDI UNA NOVIA LA CUAL YO QUERIA MUCHO Y POR SUERTE VOLVIA RECUPERAR NO HACE MAS DE 5 MESES.
ME DESANIMO EN CADA PROYECTO Q’ QUERIA INICIAR Y TANTO TAMBIEN EN NUEVAS RELACIONES AMOROSAS………..LA CUAL CON UNA NO PUDO Y FUE LA Q’ DESTAPO LA VERDAD DEL ASUNTO………..DESPUES DE UN TRASCURSO DE 6 MESES CON AQUELLA NUEVA PAREJA Y PASADAS YA VARIAS DISCUCIONES SOBRE EL TEMA………….UNA PERSONA Q’ YO DESCONOCIA PERO SIN DUDA PODIA VER MAS ALLA DE LO NORMAL……(TODOS SABEMOS A LO Q’ ME REFIERO) TRATANDO A MI ACTUAL PAREJA, EN ESE ENTONCES, POR UNA DEPRESION SEVERA. ESTA PERSONA SE DIO CUENTA Q’ ESTA “PSICOLOGA/CHAMAN” A LA Q’ YO IBA ME HABIA HECHO UN TRABAJO A MI Y A, EN ESE MOMENTO, MI ACTUAL NOVIA PARA Q’ NO PUDIERAMOS TENER RELACIONES SEXUALES SANAMENTE.
X SUERTE ESTA PERSONA PUDO DESASER ESTE TRABAJO Y DESPUES DE UN TRASCURSO DE 10 DIAS ME COMENTO LO Q’ PASABA…………..MI CUERPO REACCIONO DE UNA MANERA MUY RARA………….COMO SABIENDO Q’ ESTO ESTABA PASANDO Y ERA VERDAD………….MISMO YO, EN EL TRASCURSO DE ESOS 10 DIAS, HABIA TENIDO LA SENSACION DE Q’ ERA DEMASIADO LO Q’ ESTA “PSICOLOGA/CHAMAN” ME HACIA DECIR, PENSAR Y ACTUAR. NUNCA SENTI UN FUEGO EN MI PIEL, COMO EN AQUEL MOMENTO……..AUTOMATICAMENTE SALI AL PATIO COMO QUIEN NO ESTA PRESENTE EN ESE INSTANTE Y MI CUERPO EMPEZO A DANSAR…….DANSABA SOLO COMO SI ESTUVIERA ALREDEDOR DE UN FUEGO, PREPARANDOSE PARA LA GUERRA…..
NO VOLVI A VER A ESTA “PSICOLOGA/CHAMAN”, PERO FUE DURA LA RECUPERACION Y LA SELECCION DE LO APRENDIDO……Q’ ERA VERDADERO Y Q’ NO………..Q’ ERA CORRECTO Y Q’ NO.
EL TIEMPO PASO Y YO ME ESTAVILIZE EN UN MONTON DE COSAS, PERO NUNCA TUVE LA ENERGIA VITAL Q’ TENIA ANTES DE ESTE PROCESO EN MI VIDA……….SIN DUDA CREO Q’ ESTA PERSONA ME ESTABA ROBANDO ENERGIA PARA LLENARSE MAS DE PODER. PODER Q’ NO LE SERVIRA TARDE O TEMPRANO………….PERO A MI ME AFECTA EN VARIOS ASPECTOS……EN MI TRABAJO EN MIS RELACIONES, EN MIS DESEOS Y COMBICCIONES……
LA PREGUNTA ES…………..ALGUIEN SABE COMO HACER PARA RECUPERAR MI ENERGIA…………..SIN DUDA ESTA PERSONA ES MI PINCHE TIRANO, SI MAL NO RECUERDO A DON JUAN………..LA IMPECABILIDAD ES MI OBJETIVO PRIMARIO Y REQUISITO PARA VENCER, PERO SIENTO LA NECESIDAD DE ALGO MAS…..QUIZAS UN VIAJE ASTRAL EN BUSQUEDA DE MI ENERGIA PERDIDA……….
PENSE EN LA INGESTION CONTROLADA DE SAN PEDRO COMO UNA OPSION Y QUIZAS CON EL OBJETIVO CLARO DE ENTRAR AL MUNDO DE ARRIBA PARA SOLICITAR AYUDA DE LOS MAESTROS PARA RECUPERAR ESA ENERGIA.
AHORA……………….ALGUIEN PUEDE AYUDARME……………CUALQUIER SUGERENCIA ME SIRVE. CONTARLO YA ME ORDENA. Y SUS RESPUESTAS ESPERO SEA ANIMADORAS O CULTIVEN CONOCIMIENTO EN MI….
MUCHAS GARCIAS X SI TIEMPO….
Carlos Castaneda Signatures
Greetings,
I am interested in any information regarding the signature of Carlos Casteaneda.
From what I understand many of the books out there for sale supposedly signed by Carlos appear to be fakes.
Seems that to be totally sure a signature of Carlos Castaneda is authentic must be one that was signed in person…and you as the witness saw Carlos sign it.
I was wondering if perhaps we could start a page here with images of Carlos Castaneda signatures.
Signatures of Carlos from the 60’s seem to be the most likely to trust. Signatures from the 80’s and 90’s appear very differant.
Has anyone here collected signatures of Carlos from the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s?
I would like to hear what you have to say on this matter.
Thank you, John
Carlos Castaneda the ARTIST, need info
Greetings,
I am looking for any and all information regarding the past art creations of Carlos Castaneda.
I am aware that he has made acrylic paintings and ceramic pieces.
Does anyone know anything about lithographs he may have created. I have seen 2 of them also signed by Carlos. Supposedly he had taken at least one art class at Berkeley during the late 70’s and/or early 80’s most likely under a differant name that his real name. Does anyone have any information on this?
Does anyone here own a original work of art by Carlos?
Thank you for any information
John
First Things First
You presume, in looking at the world around you, that you know what reality is. You presume, that that world which you see in so looking, is reality. But before we can proceed further I must tell you that that presumption is in error. I must tell you that what you see, in looking at the world around you, is a subjective experience that is far removed from the reality it was based upon. I must also point out to you that at this very moment you are taking that subjective experience to be reality, and in so doing, you are blinding yourself to the truth of the reality that surrounds you. You have become so caught up in the believability of the illusion your mind has created for you in the form of that subjective experience, that you find yourself hard-pressed to see beyond it.
Let me illustrate the truth of what I am trying to convey to you with an example, that you may better grasp this opportunity to step beyond the confinement imposed upon you by your subjection to an illusion. For that example, let us examine your sense of hearing. Your hearing a sound begins when waveforms of energy find their way to your outer ear where they are transformed to mechanical energy by small bones within your middle ear. This mechanical energy travels on to your inner ear in the form of vibrations picked up by the organ of Corti. Those vibrations are then converted into and transmitted as electrical and chemical signals passed between nerve cells within your auditory nerve until they eventually reach the temporal-cortical areas of your brain. Here they continue to be shuffled about between neurons in the form of chemical and electrical exchanges between these cells and somehow, through this electrochemical dance occurring within your brain, you come to have the subjective experience we all understand as sound. Though we donââ?¬Ë?t quite fully comprehend how those many transformations become our ultimate experience of hearing a sound, most all of us are familiar with the experience of hearing a sound.
When you hear a sound you presume that you hear that sound because there was first a sound to be heard, but the truth is that there is no sound until you hear it, there are only energetic waveforms. Your experience of hearing a sound, though caused by these waveforms of energy, is not the waveforms themselves. Within your awareness you hear those waveforms as a sound, but the waveforms themselves never experience themselves as a sound. The sound only exists within your experience of the sound.
That experience you call sound is a concoction prepared for you by the perceptual peculiarities of your mind, and is an impression of the ââ?¬Å?out thereââ?¬
dream a little dream
in my all my years of dreams i have never witnessed this before. once when i was maybe 7 or 8 i dreamt that i woke up late for school, then i actually woke up late for school only not as late as in my dream. about a week ago i dreamt that i was dreaming. i dont remember what it was about unfortunately. im just curious if this might have any sort of significance or if there are other places where i can research this topic. i would say that this dream led to my registration on this forum. any feedback would be appreciated. thank you.
D5 Creation