10-15-2006, 08:23 PM
what is it about ?
Flyers
11-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Now that there could be a creature, a flyer, who comes into us as a foreign installation and I have understood that it mainly IS the ego in us all, that makes me feel that once again there is a thing we can blaim and so we can imagine we aren't resbonsible about a thing we do or say.What made you arrive at the conclusion that the existence and the influence of flyers would make us anyhow less responsible for our acts and thoughts?
Are you also "a little disappointed" because of the fact that there is death awaiting and challenging us all?
Now, what is this "ego" you are demonizing?
When logics fail... it's time to take a step backwards and examine.
If there is any time left, that is.
11-12-2006, 01:18 AM
The world is full of stories of demons and devils who trick us all the time. That all makes me frustrated, because what ever we do, there is always somebody telling us that it was this force and that being and something outside of us which made us to do it. Isn't there anything that we can really do, WE, from our own minds and hearts? So that we don't have to act like puppets, outside forces acting upon us?
I didn't think so much about death with this thing. Death just ends us, it doesn't force us to behave badly. It just forces us to die. So what...
So I like to think that it's about us what to we do. Do we behave like idiots and devils or not. But ofcourse I know it's hard to make yourself a totally one being, full of will, intent, so there aren't many rival wills, emotions and ideas in ourselves.
I didn't think so much about death with this thing. Death just ends us, it doesn't force us to behave badly. It just forces us to die. So what...
So I like to think that it's about us what to we do. Do we behave like idiots and devils or not. But ofcourse I know it's hard to make yourself a totally one being, full of will, intent, so there aren't many rival wills, emotions and ideas in ourselves.
12-14-2006, 10:52 AM
The Devil made me do it. My petty tyrant made me do it.
I've got a petty tyrant in my life, a good one. Although I guessed as much for some time I never put 2 and 2 together and saw him as a teacher. I fight on a day to day basis not to blame him for the anger he draws out of me (he's my boss). This guy is ruthless with everyone but himself. He's so smart, and devious. I've known him for 7 years and I'm ready to leave, but not until I can say that the Devil didn't make me do it.
Amen.
P.S. I've seen the flyers too, well just let me say that I saw shadows jumping around with the lights off in my room once. It was after reading the active side, sometimes I think I was just open to suggestion at the time, but the expirence was unmistakable, I saw something. Amy Wallace in her book "The Sorcerers Apprintice, , in-between the whining, mentions that she even saw the flyers, and she's somewhat of a sceptic.
I've got a petty tyrant in my life, a good one. Although I guessed as much for some time I never put 2 and 2 together and saw him as a teacher. I fight on a day to day basis not to blame him for the anger he draws out of me (he's my boss). This guy is ruthless with everyone but himself. He's so smart, and devious. I've known him for 7 years and I'm ready to leave, but not until I can say that the Devil didn't make me do it.
Amen.
P.S. I've seen the flyers too, well just let me say that I saw shadows jumping around with the lights off in my room once. It was after reading the active side, sometimes I think I was just open to suggestion at the time, but the expirence was unmistakable, I saw something. Amy Wallace in her book "The Sorcerers Apprintice, , in-between the whining, mentions that she even saw the flyers, and she's somewhat of a sceptic.
02-06-2007, 06:45 AM
It is quite crazy to be amongst people who actually care about what castaneda and the witches wrote in their books! Mind boggling! Not once have I met a person who respects this knowledge completely,( well actually I have, but I am sure that you won't believe me if I told you that story)and yet here I am shearing information with like minded people .( by the way have you noticed the way I automatically wrote the sentence " castaneda and the witches"; why not "the witches and carlos"?)
The Flyer...the flyer's mind...mmm, I must admit, I do have quite a problem with them, it is just too bad i cant pull them off... I think they use super glue or something...so yeah, we all know what happens when you combine impatience with something sticky...
O K on the serious side, no joke, the other day, now this is what I have started doing, I climb up a tree , as high as I can( in this tree I lie down on a branch about 3,5 to 4 stories high) for the purpose of cleansing "my" mind. It is surprisingly comfortable up there, especially when the South Easter is blowing, gently rocking the branch from side to side.
so here I was, just sort of floating up in the tree, the sun already set, with the stars starting to light up.
All of a sudden, without warning, in the blink of an eye, this image appears. My eyes were closed, and i was definitely not dreaming.
This image appears, (how can I explain this without sounding ridiculous), of a reptilian human face. (All right,all right, I sound like someone from David Icke's books)It was fleeting yet vivid, but strangely i wasn't afraid. This was not my imagination, I dont take drugs, I dont smoke, I dont drink alcohol. Never has anything like this happened to me before. If I think back, it was just totally bizarre. It(he or she) had this dark olive complexion , right, with red dots of scales running from its forehead to the top of its head. It had large amber colored eyes of a reptile, with a delicately chiseled mouth and chin. It had a large head, bigger than ours. It was'nt this horrendous creature that I imagined it to be. It wasn't grotesque, and yet it was.
What a mistery! there is just so much more still to find out about this, I am sure.
Wasn't it Don Juan who described the flier as a crocodile standing on it's tale or something?
I think you guys can help me out here.
The Flyer...the flyer's mind...mmm, I must admit, I do have quite a problem with them, it is just too bad i cant pull them off... I think they use super glue or something...so yeah, we all know what happens when you combine impatience with something sticky...
O K on the serious side, no joke, the other day, now this is what I have started doing, I climb up a tree , as high as I can( in this tree I lie down on a branch about 3,5 to 4 stories high) for the purpose of cleansing "my" mind. It is surprisingly comfortable up there, especially when the South Easter is blowing, gently rocking the branch from side to side.
so here I was, just sort of floating up in the tree, the sun already set, with the stars starting to light up.
All of a sudden, without warning, in the blink of an eye, this image appears. My eyes were closed, and i was definitely not dreaming.
This image appears, (how can I explain this without sounding ridiculous), of a reptilian human face. (All right,all right, I sound like someone from David Icke's books)It was fleeting yet vivid, but strangely i wasn't afraid. This was not my imagination, I dont take drugs, I dont smoke, I dont drink alcohol. Never has anything like this happened to me before. If I think back, it was just totally bizarre. It(he or she) had this dark olive complexion , right, with red dots of scales running from its forehead to the top of its head. It had large amber colored eyes of a reptile, with a delicately chiseled mouth and chin. It had a large head, bigger than ours. It was'nt this horrendous creature that I imagined it to be. It wasn't grotesque, and yet it was.
What a mistery! there is just so much more still to find out about this, I am sure.
Wasn't it Don Juan who described the flier as a crocodile standing on it's tale or something?
I think you guys can help me out here.
02-07-2007, 10:55 PM
Flyers? oh please this sound like a fiction.
Marco Antonio Arenas Chipola was banned for harrasment to the ex-wife of one of the admins. Later we get info about he is a thief, and evidence of his relation with the Templo Tolteca / Kinam Destructive Cult. Take measures if you had contact with him.
02-08-2007, 11:49 PM
Yea, it does, the thing is, most of us need hard evidence.
How can we possibly prove the flyers existence, when they don't consist of any organic substance?
(fact)We are ignorant assholes.........well, is it not set up that way?
SET UP BY WHO? DON JUAN IS TALKING RUBBISH! (I hear the desperate shout of the voice in my head)
Have any of you seen Alex Jones' documentary, "DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE" where he films "The Cremation of Care" ritual?
If you have any doubt about the existence of the flyer (or whatever you like to call it), do yourself (your true self) a favour and write down what is being said in that ritual, where they burn the "so called" moch human sacrifice.
I am going to quote some of the best bits:
[the Priest]: "Gather ye forest folk, and cast your spell over these mortals! Touch their world blind eyes with carrion. Open their eyes to fancy"
Cleverly structured, this speech, Whom is the priest referring to when he talks about the "forest folk"?
And who are "these mortals"?
Do all the people understand what he is saying?
He cannot be referring to us, now surely,when he talks about "these mere mortals' ,that is just ridiculous, we are the illuminated ones, for crying out loud! We are special, goddammit! (I hear some of the people watching the ritual in the crowd say)We are not blind! [OF COURSE YOU ARE BLIND!" WHAT A JOKE! HA! AS IF "THOU" CAN SEE!]
Here is another striking bit:
[the Priest]: Bohemians and Priests! The desperate call of heavy hearts is answered! By the power of your fellowship, Dull Care is slain! His body has been brought yonder to our funeral pyre to the joyous pipings of a funeral march. Our funeral pyre awaits the corps of Care! On Thou, thus ferried across the shadowy tide. In all the ancient majesty of death, Dull Care, ardent enemy of beauty, not for thee the...forgiveness or the restful grave. Fire shall have its will of Thee! and all the winds make merry with Thy dust! Bring fire!
[loud explosion] FOOLS! FOOLS! FOOLS! WHEN WILL YE LEARN? THAT ME YE CANNOT SLAY? YEAR AFTER YEAR YE BURN ME IN THIS GROVE. LIFTING YOUR PUNY SHOUTS OF TRIUMPH TO THE STARS...WHEN AGAIN YE TURN YOUR FACES TO THE MARKETPLACE...DO YE NOT FIND ME WAITING, AS OF OLD?
FOOLS! FOOLS! FOOLS TO DREAM YOU CONQUER CARE!
[the Priest]: Say Thou mocking spirit...
Before the break in, this was all a myth, a legend. Now, it's fact, this is hard evidence, don't you see?
Dont we all need to discuss this?
I can just imagine the flyers fear, the fear of being discovered right now.
A guy starts singing at the end of the ritual, and it goes like this:
(no fire)3 , unless it be kindled in the world where Care is nourished on the hates of men...
I think that our leaders are much more informed and aware of what is truly going on in this world. They will do anything to keep this secret safe, will do anything to keep us in a state of ignorance.
How can we possibly prove the flyers existence, when they don't consist of any organic substance?
(fact)We are ignorant assholes.........well, is it not set up that way?
SET UP BY WHO? DON JUAN IS TALKING RUBBISH! (I hear the desperate shout of the voice in my head)
Have any of you seen Alex Jones' documentary, "DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE" where he films "The Cremation of Care" ritual?
If you have any doubt about the existence of the flyer (or whatever you like to call it), do yourself (your true self) a favour and write down what is being said in that ritual, where they burn the "so called" moch human sacrifice.
I am going to quote some of the best bits:
[the Priest]: "Gather ye forest folk, and cast your spell over these mortals! Touch their world blind eyes with carrion. Open their eyes to fancy"
Cleverly structured, this speech, Whom is the priest referring to when he talks about the "forest folk"?
And who are "these mortals"?
Do all the people understand what he is saying?
He cannot be referring to us, now surely,when he talks about "these mere mortals' ,that is just ridiculous, we are the illuminated ones, for crying out loud! We are special, goddammit! (I hear some of the people watching the ritual in the crowd say)We are not blind! [OF COURSE YOU ARE BLIND!" WHAT A JOKE! HA! AS IF "THOU" CAN SEE!]
Here is another striking bit:
[the Priest]: Bohemians and Priests! The desperate call of heavy hearts is answered! By the power of your fellowship, Dull Care is slain! His body has been brought yonder to our funeral pyre to the joyous pipings of a funeral march. Our funeral pyre awaits the corps of Care! On Thou, thus ferried across the shadowy tide. In all the ancient majesty of death, Dull Care, ardent enemy of beauty, not for thee the...forgiveness or the restful grave. Fire shall have its will of Thee! and all the winds make merry with Thy dust! Bring fire!
[loud explosion] FOOLS! FOOLS! FOOLS! WHEN WILL YE LEARN? THAT ME YE CANNOT SLAY? YEAR AFTER YEAR YE BURN ME IN THIS GROVE. LIFTING YOUR PUNY SHOUTS OF TRIUMPH TO THE STARS...WHEN AGAIN YE TURN YOUR FACES TO THE MARKETPLACE...DO YE NOT FIND ME WAITING, AS OF OLD?
FOOLS! FOOLS! FOOLS TO DREAM YOU CONQUER CARE!
[the Priest]: Say Thou mocking spirit...
Before the break in, this was all a myth, a legend. Now, it's fact, this is hard evidence, don't you see?
Dont we all need to discuss this?
I can just imagine the flyers fear, the fear of being discovered right now.
A guy starts singing at the end of the ritual, and it goes like this:
(no fire)3 , unless it be kindled in the world where Care is nourished on the hates of men...
I think that our leaders are much more informed and aware of what is truly going on in this world. They will do anything to keep this secret safe, will do anything to keep us in a state of ignorance.
02-09-2007, 12:46 AM
Flyers? oh please this sound like a fiction.So it does, or does it? And if it does so what? Follow your feelings, go with your gut. If it seems like nonsense, then carry on about your business and do as you will. That's all we really ever do anyway, right?
02-09-2007, 12:48 AM
It is quite crazy to be amongst people who actually care about what castaneda and the witches wrote in their books!Nice to meet you!
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