[DrakeWan]

Could it be the spirit giving us a good way of learning these techniques?... I've personally used salvia quite a bit, without using any of the knowledge of don juan, but I find it odd, almost everyone who takes it is instantly transported to a position of choosing two awareness's or two realities.. and a lot of people have no idea which reality they chose...

in my normal awareness I'm actually really hesitant of smoking salvia.. but once I'm 'high' .. I 'somewhat' enjoy it... but always utilize parts of my inventory... I was wondering if anyone has any information or experiences of their own?.... Could be a good discussion...

Salvia divinorum is a perennial labiate used for curing and divination by the Mazatec Indians of Oaxaca, Mexico.... I know its the MAZatecs.. but still ... It is VERY powerful in the shifts/movements it creates. They use it to divine things... in my understanding that means it strengthens the link between intent and us... or something similar.. I can't explain.... I just never have an intent when smoking it other than to 'see' what happens.. usually more literally than not.. 'with eyes'... not with silent knowledge.

[ensonar]

It's funny that you described it as splitting a person in two. I've only used it once, but it made me feel exactly that. There was one side of me that could clearly witness what was going on, there was another side that was completely absorbed in the strange sensations I was experiencing.

[Jin]

tried it few times
salvia alone wasn't very pleasant, can't realy describe though

ate mushrooms and smokes once, with a watcher
first 1,5 min were not recorded in my memory, i was doing somthing but it doesn't make sense (maybe thats good thought )
then first images i rememberd where totaly imposiable to describe + adding a total time distorbtion (that i had most of time when i tried it - there was a feeling like all my being is stuck in a time frame (same when mixed with weed) idea of this current time just beeing a recollection of a memory in live that i have already lived, a feeling of beeing stuck in time. (later realisations came from mixint salvia with weed) + many more things, that i can't realy describe, at least not yet...

[Merged]

I found Salvia to be an extreamly harsh jump of the assemblage point from norm position to a very specific position, one I was unfamilliar with. I actually felt the crack in my energetic shell and was trying to close it because I felt it was too weak to handle the shift, I felt I was involentarrily trying to open that crack, IE: my tonal was trying to kill me instead of allowing me to percieve.
Of course after the effects had dissapated I immediatly had this attack of morbidity, I felt like I was a really horrable person who had done something Very, Very wrong. Isn't it amazing how the tonal will try ANYTHING it can to get our attention, lol
It was quite a lesson, all in all.

Be well warriors.

[blu129]

I got bored one day at work and took a slightly bigger than average hit of salvia. its strong stuff anyway. Needless to say i was sideways for a few min. i watched as people around the office dragged their dead bodies across the room doing various activities.

made me feel empty for a bit, but otherwise normal.

[Jin]

anyone tried salvia 5x or 10x ?

[Warbaryan]

anyone tried salvia 5x or 10x ?

Or being totally drunk AND stoned and trying to do Tensegrity?

[DrakeWan]

anyone tried salvia 5x or 10x ?

Or being totally drunk AND stoned and trying to do Tensegrity?

anyone tried salvia 5x or 10x ?

Or being totally drunk AND stoned and trying to do Tensegrity?

Hawiian Salvia is the best... and yes.. I've tried 50x... it gets a bit ridiculus after 20x.. because how the hell can you infuse a leaf with more extract? it'll only hold a certain amount.. so the extracts are BS... IMO... once you get to 20x I think thats the most u can get infused into the leaf..

but I would much rather do Tensegrity high on salvia rather than on alcohol..
alcohol LOWERs the personal frequency of the user... the idea of nagualism is to raise your personal vibration... salvia vibrates on its own frequency and causes you to match its vibration when you smoke it.. or drink it... which is the shift in assemblage point you're all talking about..
Alcohol is used to speak to the masses... it lowers a persons frequency to match other peoples vibration..

[Warbaryan]

alcohol LOWERs the personal frequency of the user... the idea of nagualism is to raise your personal vibration...

I've never heard of this theory. Sounds like fun...??

So, bass is not needed? Just treble? Huh. Would hurt your ears seriously in the end, wouldn't it.

The idea of nagualism is to fix my kitchen sink. No petroleum, just pure sugar. Sugar is good. The tooth fairy likes it.

[DrakeWan]

alcohol LOWERs the personal frequency of the user... the idea of nagualism is to raise your personal vibration...

I've never heard of this theory. Sounds like fun...??

So, bass is not needed? Just treble? Huh. Would hurt your ears seriously in the end, wouldn't it.

The idea of nagualism is to fix my kitchen sink. No petroleum, just pure sugar. Sugar is good. The tooth fairy likes it.

wow, you do good to enrage people don't you... well too bad fizzle.. I seen your intentions and bypass their feeble attempts.. and I give you a play by play so you can see your own designs failing because you are not operating from a path with a heart but you are mean and heartless and without balance..

If you understood what I was saying you wouldn't be so cynical.. it seems a lot of you supposed 'naguals' are quite cynical...

but nevermind your petty jokes... sorry you don't understand the ionosphere or frequencies.. its not my fault you lack these terms or concepts.. be them as artificial as your mind.. but these concepts as unimportant as they are, help in the construction of thought... and its functions.. you are after 'freedom' are you not? .. that WAS what Don Juan taught wasn't it? ... does knowledge not bring freedom from ignorance? ..

by any means you can continue your games ... but as you spin around the millstone.. toiling in decay.. when your master comes to unleash you, you will still be in the same place... because you have waited for someone to bring you knowledge, instead of taking what was already there. I hope your wait isn't much longer..
I guess you don't know much about hypnotism or thought science? .. naguals were intelligent seers because they could SEE energy... you might want to heed the new science which claims to do such a thing.. considering the naguals are now the ones who run the world...being the sorcerers of antiquity..

Wow. look at the sugar pour out of my mouth... but atleast I'm keeping positive... on my path with a heart... I can atleast throw some intelligence in with my rants and insults..