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I haven't read much here about Gazing. Are others finding it as hard as I am?

Sorcerers speak of sorcery as a magical mysterious bird, which has paused in its flight for a moment in order to give a man hope and purpose... nagual Elías THE POWER OF SILENCE
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I haven't read much here about Gazing. Are others finding it as hard as I am?

Sorcerers speak of sorcery as a magical mysterious bird, which has paused in its flight for a moment in order to give a man hope and purpose... nagual Elías THE POWER OF SILENCE
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I haven't read much here about Gazing. Are others finding it as hard as I am?

Sorcerers speak of sorcery as a magical mysterious bird, which has paused in its flight for a moment in order to give a man hope and purpose... nagual Elías THE POWER OF SILENCE
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I haven't gazed for more that an hour. My mind (is it MY mind?) won't stop talking. Even so, it's very peacefull and relaxing.
17-Sep-2007 02:44 PM
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I haven't gazed for more that an hour. My mind (is it MY mind?) won't stop talking. Even so, it's very peacefull and relaxing.
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I haven't gazed for more that an hour. My mind (is it MY mind?) won't stop talking. Even so, it's very peacefull and relaxing.
17-Sep-2007 02:44 PM
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draw black spot 2-3mm in diameter on the paper
make 2-3 centemeters gap and draw another spot and so on.
you will have a line from such spots. or you can draw spiral.
if you not artist you can simply use beans and lay them on table.

few seconds gaze first spot or bean, then go to second spot and so on.
do not gaze one spot long time, because you began to "talk".
this is trick for brane - you jumping in silense in short gazings.
15-Nov-2007 03:45 AM
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I gaze with dry leaves now and then (perfect time of the year for that right now in the northern hemisphere). I never have tried to go for longer than 20 or 30 minutes though because I don't really have the time for that currently.

Something that has helped me with inner silence is, not forcing it. It's nothing but a continual reminding to focus on whatever it is you're choosing to focus on; gazing, sounds, breathing, etc. The point isn't to see how long you can go without talking to yourself. The point is to continually be switching the focus from inner dialogue to your focal point. As soon as you catch yourself talking, gently switch your focus to your gazing. There's no use in becoming frustrated. It seems to me that frustration is only a result of feeling that you should be doing better. I believe that if you are constantly switching from your inner-dialogue to your gazing (or whatever technique you're using), you are in fact doing exactly what you are supposed to be doing and you are progressing. If you continue doing it, you will reach greater levels of silence.

Do it without expectations. Gazing is a joy unto itself, there's no need to look for or expect results. In my experience, expectation is one of the greatest barriers to many things.
16-Nov-2007 03:01 PM
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Hi,

My gazing tecnique is whit the light of a candle.

I look the light and the contour of the light 15/20 sec and after i close my eyes and try keep the image of the light many time as possible on my mind... when the light desapear a do whit again.


sorry my bad ingles

Rodrigo

This user is a merge of users with less than 5 posts or all posts in less than one week. Maybe the merged is more interesting than the original users.

Este usuario es una combinación de usuarios con menos de 5 mensajes o que escribió todo en menos de una semana. Quizá el usuario combinado resulte mas interesante que los usuarios originales.
17-Nov-2007 05:09 AM
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Gazing is hard for the mind. The mind isn't supposed to do the gazing. "Trying" arouses the mind.

Gazing, to me, is looking without effort or identification or involving the mind. It's casual, relaxed, easy - because "you" don't have to do anything. Gazing happens when "you" are absent.

Try this if you like: find some swiftly flowing water or a waterfall; it doesn't have to be a large one. If using flowing water (not too deep), find a stone or something that you can make out below the surface, on the bottom of the stream. If using a waterfall, find an outcrop of rock or whatever behind the falling water. Fix your gaze upon this spot but allow your attention/awareness to be on the surface. In other words, keep your eyes fixed on that stone below the surface but be aware of the moving surface without letting it catch and pull your eyes. This might take a little practice but you should start to notice "interuptions" in the flow of the waterfall, some pauses, some "pattern" to the whole, some stretching of awareness to encompass the whole stream... These are some things you might notice that let you know that you're beginning to gaze properly. The phenomena are not essential; the absence of the thinker is essential.
22-Nov-2007 11:44 AM
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I was re-reading A Seperate Reality yesterday, after I posted this. I hadn't realised that what I was doing with water gazing is the same as what CC did by the irrigation ditch. In his description, he said it looked like he was looking at a picture of the water. That's what I meant by "interruptions" and patterns and pauses. The water stops flowing and you're looking at a piece of it in time, it seems like.

Anyway. after reading that I thought I should post a warning. I said that you might feel your awareness strtching to encompass the whole stream. Well, DJ says not to get carried by the sound of the water or he could lose CC. He also says this must be done with a benefactor, I'd assume one that can see, because a beginner won't be able to bring him/herself back if the green mist envelopes you. He says the body will just die there on the banks of the stream and the spirit of the water hole will carry one off.
You need to not abandon yourself to it, which in my experience means, don't get caught up in the extraordinary event that is happening... act like it's ordinary. The same goes for everyday life. Don't get caught up in the ordinary... acts like it's extraordinary. They're really one and the same. Life is just life... not ordinary life and extraordinary life.
24-Nov-2007 02:41 PM
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Here's another warning. Remember that whatever you do, may lead to your death. Be respectful of that possibility.
24-Nov-2007 05:30 PM
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Cita: Here's another warning. Remember that whatever you do, may lead to your death. Be respectful of that possibility.
One of the best of all suggestions.
25-Nov-2007 02:26 AM
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As another option, you might try "gazing" with your ears.
Seriously.
By listening to the sounds of the world as CC did in Seperate Reality.
It's basically the same result, utilizing the ears instead of the eyes.
If done correctly, you'll notice the spaces in between the sounds and they'll expand into "frames" or "blocks of sound and silence", just as was described in water gazing, how the moving water became a "picture" of a "frame" of water.
CC called the spaces "holes" when using his ears.
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