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I'll have to give some thought to the sexual energy question.
My initial response is that energy is energy, and I don't concern myself with dividing it. But there is something to sexual energy that deserves attention.

I'm on a posting marathon... I need to not think about all this for a short while and eat something.

I am very grateful for this place and each of you.

[BratscheWarrior]

Reply to your other post - La Gorda ends up just taking the edge back from her daughter with her will. She didn't have to kill her. She had to meet her, look her in the eye, basically say thanks and I own this... I no longer agree to my previous unconscious agreement to give you this energy... and then with an act of will pulled the energy back.

As I recall, this does not kill the child. It is explained that the child does not need this extra energy, but a warrior does. The child won't be as high energy, but it doesn't kill them.

Does anyone else find this cruel? You basically deny the child a chance to be free. That's why i won't have kids.

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Labels.

It is what it is. It is a warrior who has found the door to freedom taking back some energy that they gave, unconsciously, without conscious agreement (I don't know if Miguel Ruiz means anything to you, but do you recall that a warrior doesn't have to keep agreements s/he didn't make? La Gorda never agreed to give that child her energy.) ... taking back some energy from someone who may or may not ever find the door to freedom, with or without the energy.

Leaving that energy because the child might have a chance in the future, when you do have a chance now... a warrior doesn't live that way. A warrior doesn't deny the present, or not answer the knock of the spirit.

I don't know that this denies the child a chance to be free.
I'm not sure why you think that.
I know for a fact it's not cruel though, unless you intend to be cruel. As far as I can see, La Gorda just intended to be free, not cruel. Actually, according to the book, she loved the child.

From a social human perspective, I can see that this seems cruel. But from a warrior's perspective... from the impersonal... I can't even begin to think the thought "cruel".

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From my understanding, sexual energy is all energy. That is, all energy is sexual energy.

And how do we save (sexual) energy? Impeccability. Devoting yourself to the Warrior's Way.

What if having sex was a not-doing?

:lol:

I'm laughing cause I can see that you have no idea what you're saying, and that you're just regurgitating Gurdjieff!

:lol: "reGurdjieffating"

Do you want to play, BratscheWarrior? Why don't you tell me how you understand that all energy is sexual energy?

Does your computer run off semen too? Cause I thought I had the only one!

"What if having sex was a not-doing?"
Then I'd be Don Fucking Juan!

"Having" sex! :lol:
Yet another possession.

"I have the sex now. It's dirty sex, so be careful. I'll just put it in this zip-loc bag and save it for later. Just look at all this sexual energy I've accumulated. I better get a bigger freezer."
:lol:

[BratscheWarrior]

Blah blah blah blah blah...it's funny what you are assuming about me. Just proves to me that you are not a Warrior. It's not criticism, you just are not.

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You needed proof?
Why, did you want to worship me?
Have I ever claimed to be a warrior?
I've only clarified what a warrior is and isn't.

There are absolutely no warriors here.
If you're looking for one, this isn't the place.
If you were one yourself, you wouldn't be looking for others to be one.


Every one of us is guilty of summing up people and making a decision whether they're warriors or whatever.
Does anyone realise why we do this? What the consciousness behind it is?

Anyone summing up someone else is not themselves whatever they're looking for in the other. I guarantee you that.

The consciousness behind this criticism and summing up (and yes, it is criticism - check your dictionary) is comparison. And i can say absolutely that anyone comparing is not "it". You have to come out of "it" in order to compare. There is no comparison without first intending seperation. To even be able to consider the possibility or ask the question, "Am I 'it'? Is he 'it'?" requires that you're not.

While you've been searching for proof, you could have just asked me. I'd have told you I'm no warrior. It should be apparent from my posts that I'm not trying to be any label.

As long as being a warrior is a goal, you'll never reach it.
Just be whatever you are. Instant success!
Drop the labels. How can you know what you are or aren't? Instant mystery!

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I still don't have a good answer for sexual energy. Just acquired knowledge.

My acquired knowledge says that sexual energy could be everything because everything exists in polarities, all the way down to atoms and subatomics - so that's sex: male and female.
Another answer could be kundalini in the base "chakra" which is the power source for the "higher" energy centers.

From my experience, not acquired knowledge, I've come to see how amazing it is to actually be present in the world. The thing I used to search for isn't in some "higher" sphere, some mental gimmick, some astral projection or ascension, etc. Completion is right here. This moment is full (and empty). Being physical is the gateway into presence, into the warrior's world of actions. And sex is perhaps the most powerful physical event there is. But being present is just as intimate. It's just that sex is available to almost everyone, while presence is the obvious unobvious.

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Forgive me for just posting quotes, but this knowledge may be helpful to some.

Again, from U.G. Krishnamurti:

"The natural needs of a human being are basic: food, clothing and shelter. You must either work for them or be given them by somebody. If these are your only needs, they are not very difficult to fulfill. To deny yourself the basic needs is not a sign of spirituality; but to require more than food, clothing and shelter is a neurotic state of mind.

Is not sex a basic human requirement? Sex is dependent upon thought; the body itself has no sex. Only the genitals and perhaps the hormone balances differ between male and female. It is thought that says "I am a man, and that is a woman, an attractive woman." It is thought that translates sex feelings in the body and says "These are sexual feelings." And it is thought that provides the build-up without which no sex is possible: "It would be more pleasurable to hold that woman's hand than just to look at her. It would be more pleasurable to kiss her than just to embrace her," and so on. In the natural state there is no build-up of thought. Without that build-up, sex is impossible. And sex is tremendously violent to the body. The body normally is a very peaceful organism, and then you subject it to this tremendous tension and release, which feels pleasurable to you. Actually it is painful to the body.

But through suppression or attempts at sublimation of sex you will never come into this state. As long as you think of God, you will have thoughts of sex. Ask any religious seeker you may know who practices celibacy, whether he doesn't dream of women at night. The peak of the sex experience is the one thing in life you have that comes close to being a first-hand experience; all of the rest of your experiences are second-hand, somebody else's. Why do you weave so many taboos and ideas around this? Why do you destroy the joy of sex? Not that I am advocating indulgence or promiscuity; but through abstinence and continence you will never achieve a thing."

[forfuckssake]

Mouse from The Matrix film:

To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human.

He, the only crew member aboard the Nebudchenezzer to have virtual sex with The Woman In The Red Dress or at least to not deny his impulses, is then the first to die when they are all ambushed by the Agents after an inside tip-off from Cypher.

[ensonar]

I just did a little Google search for "krishnamurti on sex" and found this article. Within it I found this paragraph which I found to be very interesting and concise:

"So, in every field, in every activity, you are indulging and emphasizing yourself, your importance, your prestige, your security. Therefore, there is only one source of self-forgetfulness, which is sex, and that is why the woman or the man becomes all-important to you, and why you must possess. So, you build a society which enforces that possession, guarantees you that possession; and naturally sex becomes the all-important problem when everywhere else the self is the important thing. And do you think, Sirs, that one can live in that state without contradiction, without misery, without frustration? But when there is honestly and sincerely no self-emphasis, whether in religion or in social activity, then sex has very little meaning. It is because you are afraid to be as nothing, politically, socially, religiously, that sex becomes a problem; but if in all these things you allowed yourself to diminish, to be the less, you would see that sex becomes no problem at all."