https://rojointenso.net/mybb/ Wed, 06 May 2026 12:15:20 +0000 MyBB https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8458 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:56:29 +0000 cada dia]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8458
do You practice with witness?
this recapitulation-stalking exercise is always practiced in workshops after tensegrity. two people sit down, one is recapitulating, onother is asking questions about inner dialogue; body position; new position, new view from this position.]]>
do You practice with witness?
this recapitulation-stalking exercise is always practiced in workshops after tensegrity. two people sit down, one is recapitulating, onother is asking questions about inner dialogue; body position; new position, new view from this position.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8474 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:48:11 +0000 true]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8474
from "Encounters with the Nagual" by Armando Torres

Check out the book if you haven't already. This is the first I've heard of it, but it was written in 2004. It consists of notes from a student in CC's presence.


http://www.rarecloud.com/at_html/01/index.html]]>
from "Encounters with the Nagual" by Armando Torres

Check out the book if you haven't already. This is the first I've heard of it, but it was written in 2004. It consists of notes from a student in CC's presence.


http://www.rarecloud.com/at_html/01/index.html]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8492 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:40:21 +0000 true]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8492 I'll try not to be too invasive.

I have done some recapitulating, so I'm not just dismissing it with my mind.
I'm not dismissing it at all. It works.

But I have to say that all these memories belong to a "me" which is a nice story, but fiction nonetheless.

You can recapitulate for a lifetime, or you can drop the "me" as identity in an instant.

Okay... enough said.
I'll creep away now.
Please continue.]]> I'll try not to be too invasive.

I have done some recapitulating, so I'm not just dismissing it with my mind.
I'm not dismissing it at all. It works.

But I have to say that all these memories belong to a "me" which is a nice story, but fiction nonetheless.

You can recapitulate for a lifetime, or you can drop the "me" as identity in an instant.

Okay... enough said.
I'll creep away now.
Please continue.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8515 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:30:55 +0000 Merged]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8515
Which books explain recapitulation the most fully?
(firefox - I remember you gave me some details on this ages ago some of which I read - then I lost the email)

Is there anywhere on the net where there`s a concise description of how to go about it?

If not, is anyone willing to have a stab at creating one?

Should I read all the books before I begin?

Thanks

]]>
Which books explain recapitulation the most fully?
(firefox - I remember you gave me some details on this ages ago some of which I read - then I lost the email)

Is there anywhere on the net where there`s a concise description of how to go about it?

If not, is anyone willing to have a stab at creating one?

Should I read all the books before I begin?

Thanks

]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8539 Wed, 27 Jun 2007 05:26:29 +0000 smellyfart]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8539
Sorcerers believe that until the very moment of the spirit's descent, any of us could walk away from the spirit; but not afterwards.
The fourth abstract core is called the descent of the spirit or being moved by intent . It is the full brunt of the spirit's descent. The fourth abstract core is an act of revelation. The spirit reveals itself to us. Sorcerers describe it as the spirit lying in ambush and then descending on us, its prey. Sorcerers say that the spirit's descent is always shrouded. It happens and yet it seems not to have happened at all.
There is a threshold that once crossed permits no retreat. Every sorcerer should have a clear memory of crossing that threshold so he can remind himself of the new state of his perceptual potential. One does not have to be an apprentice of sorcery to reach this threshold, and the only difference between an average man and a sorcerer, in such cases, is what each emphasizes. A sorcerer emphasizes crossing this threshold and uses the memory of it as a point of reference. An average man does not cross the threshold and does his best to forget all about it.
Sorcerers say that the fourth abstract core happens when the spirit cuts our chains of self-reflection. Cutting our chains is marvelous, but also very undesirable, for nobody wants to be free.

(End Quotation)


I have wanted to discuss this with all of you for quite some time. Something I hear alot about, amongst Toltecs, is the act of being healed of something being the usher that initially brings them into conscious awareness with the spirit. Choosen, if you will? As this initial contact with Spirit moves the assemblage point, that act ( by a matter of course) , breaks our chains of self- reflection, the first in a long line of movements, culminating at a position called the place of "no pity".

What I am interested in is your story. I would also like to relate my own too you.


I believe some of us have a more intense brand of the flyers mind than others, in which case I gravitate toward the more intense version. At the time of this story I was in county jail thinking is circles. The same thought turned round and round in my head, detaching myself with each progressive thought further from sanity . I was worring compulsivly about my receding hairling, pulling the hair out on my scalp in a attempt to convince myself that I was not going bald, :blink: I felt my world crashing down as I pondered the size of my dick, I didn't have a measuring tape, couldn't remember how long an inch was and didn't even know what a man's average size was. If I could only get out of this damned jail, I knew that everytning would be alright, I would be able to convince myself of whatever I wanted. I WAS sick. I was crazy. And I was miserable. I didn't want to talk to anyone, I didn't want to do anything but sit in my bed, thinking the same broken thought over and over. Now these episodes would come and go but during one particular episode a thought different from any other I've ever had was injected into my mind. It went something like this; "Am I my receding hairline? Is that me?" Now of course this sounds simple, but isn't that the point? The concepts are so simple, yet they allude us all. With that I began my journey, I began to change. A whole new way of looking at myself and the world was thrust upon me. Remembering my good fortune helps me from sinking too far into any indulgence, and the drive to always move forward.

So there is mine, wan't to share yours?]]>
Sorcerers believe that until the very moment of the spirit's descent, any of us could walk away from the spirit; but not afterwards.
The fourth abstract core is called the descent of the spirit or being moved by intent . It is the full brunt of the spirit's descent. The fourth abstract core is an act of revelation. The spirit reveals itself to us. Sorcerers describe it as the spirit lying in ambush and then descending on us, its prey. Sorcerers say that the spirit's descent is always shrouded. It happens and yet it seems not to have happened at all.
There is a threshold that once crossed permits no retreat. Every sorcerer should have a clear memory of crossing that threshold so he can remind himself of the new state of his perceptual potential. One does not have to be an apprentice of sorcery to reach this threshold, and the only difference between an average man and a sorcerer, in such cases, is what each emphasizes. A sorcerer emphasizes crossing this threshold and uses the memory of it as a point of reference. An average man does not cross the threshold and does his best to forget all about it.
Sorcerers say that the fourth abstract core happens when the spirit cuts our chains of self-reflection. Cutting our chains is marvelous, but also very undesirable, for nobody wants to be free.

(End Quotation)


I have wanted to discuss this with all of you for quite some time. Something I hear alot about, amongst Toltecs, is the act of being healed of something being the usher that initially brings them into conscious awareness with the spirit. Choosen, if you will? As this initial contact with Spirit moves the assemblage point, that act ( by a matter of course) , breaks our chains of self- reflection, the first in a long line of movements, culminating at a position called the place of "no pity".

What I am interested in is your story. I would also like to relate my own too you.


I believe some of us have a more intense brand of the flyers mind than others, in which case I gravitate toward the more intense version. At the time of this story I was in county jail thinking is circles. The same thought turned round and round in my head, detaching myself with each progressive thought further from sanity . I was worring compulsivly about my receding hairling, pulling the hair out on my scalp in a attempt to convince myself that I was not going bald, :blink: I felt my world crashing down as I pondered the size of my dick, I didn't have a measuring tape, couldn't remember how long an inch was and didn't even know what a man's average size was. If I could only get out of this damned jail, I knew that everytning would be alright, I would be able to convince myself of whatever I wanted. I WAS sick. I was crazy. And I was miserable. I didn't want to talk to anyone, I didn't want to do anything but sit in my bed, thinking the same broken thought over and over. Now these episodes would come and go but during one particular episode a thought different from any other I've ever had was injected into my mind. It went something like this; "Am I my receding hairline? Is that me?" Now of course this sounds simple, but isn't that the point? The concepts are so simple, yet they allude us all. With that I began my journey, I began to change. A whole new way of looking at myself and the world was thrust upon me. Remembering my good fortune helps me from sinking too far into any indulgence, and the drive to always move forward.

So there is mine, wan't to share yours?]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8556 Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:09:46 +0000 smellyfart]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8556
It boggles my mind the extent of self-importance. It is so pervasive, it is a miracle that anyone could ever find his or her way out of that labrinth. I have recently discovered, thru the recapitulation, that my progress thus far (2yrs) has mainly just brought me to the point where I can see what self-importance truly is, and how I manifest it in my life.The recapitulation was a hard sell for me. I always thought I didn't need it. In my mind I was acting like a warrior should act, and every day I would tweek what I thought a warrior acted like, hoping to find the right combination. I put my EVERYTHING into this task, and when I finally thru up my hands and admitted defeat things changed and became clear. But alas it has just brought me to the point where I can see the work I have in front of me and the fear I have of my truth. It blows to seemingly start over, and I am shocked, embarressed and confused at having the first true glimpse of my "self" (which is repulsive by the way :blink: ). So now I tell myself that I am a warrior only when I'm not looking, because it is something I can never become. And I can't help but cling tighter to the only things I am sure of. My path with heart and my Unbending Intent.]]>
It boggles my mind the extent of self-importance. It is so pervasive, it is a miracle that anyone could ever find his or her way out of that labrinth. I have recently discovered, thru the recapitulation, that my progress thus far (2yrs) has mainly just brought me to the point where I can see what self-importance truly is, and how I manifest it in my life.The recapitulation was a hard sell for me. I always thought I didn't need it. In my mind I was acting like a warrior should act, and every day I would tweek what I thought a warrior acted like, hoping to find the right combination. I put my EVERYTHING into this task, and when I finally thru up my hands and admitted defeat things changed and became clear. But alas it has just brought me to the point where I can see the work I have in front of me and the fear I have of my truth. It blows to seemingly start over, and I am shocked, embarressed and confused at having the first true glimpse of my "self" (which is repulsive by the way :blink: ). So now I tell myself that I am a warrior only when I'm not looking, because it is something I can never become. And I can't help but cling tighter to the only things I am sure of. My path with heart and my Unbending Intent.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8558 Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:08:18 +0000 ensonar]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8558
Therefore, I'm beginning to feel that the recapitulation has taken the lead, as basically the most important of all the techniques. The recapitulation is what opens up all of the other techniques.

It reduces and removes self-importance, personal history, inner dialogue... and all of these seem to improve dreaming. (I've been having more vivid and strange dreams lately, but I attribute this more to the fact that I've been recapitualting every day than anything else.)

And of course, as Florinda (the first) mentioned in The Eagles Gift:

"Controlled folly is the basis for stalking , as dreams are the basis for dreaming ."

"In the absence of self-importance, a warrior's only way of dealing with the social milieu is in terms of controlled folly."

"These [the recapitulation techniques] are the mandatory preliminaries of stalking. Unless stalkers have gone through the preliminaries in order to retrieve the filaments they have left in the world, and particularly in order to reject those that others have left in them, there is no possibility of handling controlled folly, because those foreign filaments are the basis of one's limitless capacity for self-importance."

And one more note... At one of the Tensegrity workshops I went to, an instructor mentioned the fact that doing the magical passes without doing the recapitulation will only give us more energy to act like our normal selves.]]>
Therefore, I'm beginning to feel that the recapitulation has taken the lead, as basically the most important of all the techniques. The recapitulation is what opens up all of the other techniques.

It reduces and removes self-importance, personal history, inner dialogue... and all of these seem to improve dreaming. (I've been having more vivid and strange dreams lately, but I attribute this more to the fact that I've been recapitualting every day than anything else.)

And of course, as Florinda (the first) mentioned in The Eagles Gift:

"Controlled folly is the basis for stalking , as dreams are the basis for dreaming ."

"In the absence of self-importance, a warrior's only way of dealing with the social milieu is in terms of controlled folly."

"These [the recapitulation techniques] are the mandatory preliminaries of stalking. Unless stalkers have gone through the preliminaries in order to retrieve the filaments they have left in the world, and particularly in order to reject those that others have left in them, there is no possibility of handling controlled folly, because those foreign filaments are the basis of one's limitless capacity for self-importance."

And one more note... At one of the Tensegrity workshops I went to, an instructor mentioned the fact that doing the magical passes without doing the recapitulation will only give us more energy to act like our normal selves.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8588 Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:42:01 +0000 ensonar]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8588
Usually when these memories pop up, I will immediately recapitulate them. Not in a closet or a cave, but anywhere. Even if I happen to be around other people, I've learned to inconspicuously breath in as much energy as I can in a few moments, and exhale the energy left in me by the others who are part of the memory. I'm not sure why these memories surface, but I feel that it is important for me to recapitulate them as deeply, and quickly as possible.

These memory flashes not only include memories from waking life, but also memories of dreams. Sometimes from a few months ago, sometimes from many years ago. Because they surface in the same exact way that "waking" life memories do, I always try and recapitualate them in the same manner.

Has anyone had any experience with, or felt the need to recapitulate dreams?]]>
Usually when these memories pop up, I will immediately recapitulate them. Not in a closet or a cave, but anywhere. Even if I happen to be around other people, I've learned to inconspicuously breath in as much energy as I can in a few moments, and exhale the energy left in me by the others who are part of the memory. I'm not sure why these memories surface, but I feel that it is important for me to recapitulate them as deeply, and quickly as possible.

These memory flashes not only include memories from waking life, but also memories of dreams. Sometimes from a few months ago, sometimes from many years ago. Because they surface in the same exact way that "waking" life memories do, I always try and recapitualate them in the same manner.

Has anyone had any experience with, or felt the need to recapitulate dreams?]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8602 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:00:29 +0000 Jin]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8602


I more thing that I have not seen anywhere, what about recapping all the things you�ve watched on TV? It�s is a release of energy does that count?

And one more thing (though offtopic)
Anyone know about Reiki? (energetic healing with hands)]]>


I more thing that I have not seen anywhere, what about recapping all the things you�ve watched on TV? It�s is a release of energy does that count?

And one more thing (though offtopic)
Anyone know about Reiki? (energetic healing with hands)]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8607 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:00:57 +0000 ryan]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8607 https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8610 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 04:59:11 +0000 DrakeWan]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8610 G-protein coupled, seven transmembrane segment
receptors (GPCRs or 7TM receptors) are the largest
superfamily of proteins in the body.1,2 Currently, more
than 60% of drugs target GPCRs.
According to this and the documentation I've read... Salvia Divinorum communicates/target the largest superfamily of proteins in the body... considering Salvia Divin(e)orum is used to divine answers ... and has been known to work for many different 'practicioners' ..

Many trips are said to be of geometric shapes and patterns... (some call them sacred, or sacred geometry)

... We should all know that we cannot directly speak to our cells... our languages are barriers... but... IMO... I think that Salvia moves our assemblage point to our cells... or ... well .. not cells.. but to a different awareness.. one which brings up vivid memories of past events in ones life during the 3-4 days after smoking a good session of salvia...
The three to four days following smoking a good session of salvia I found myself having thoughts pop into my head about past events in my life... It's pretty intense stuff...
during the high,. .. its ... so intense and the assemblage point is moved so far, one can barely remember anything... anything one says is usually highly incoherent or unrelatable to anything... but people usually recollect being at a cusp... a decision.. a very pertinant one...
usually with two decisions...
sometimes people skip that phase altogether, and .. perhaps.. 'choose' ... one of the 'directions' ... and end up in a place where colors and shapes and geometric patterns are superimposed or over-layed over your regular 'vision' .. even with eyes open...
or other times... people skip that phase altogether... and are transported places where 'entities' speak to them and give them very life changing advice they can 'never' remember...
people can also ... move the assemblage point or shift it... depending on the person and the dose... but it is very powerful stuff.. and I recommend using it with INTENT... or ... according to silent knowledge..

Perhaps it opens up our mind to scenarios handed to our conciousness through our cells ...

Visualization is amazing.. its a way of communicating knowledge to people subliminally or to communicate concept or knowledge... sort of like a silent play...
or when two people of different languages have to communicate, they have to act out what they are trying to relay.. because words just simply don't work.]]> G-protein coupled, seven transmembrane segment
receptors (GPCRs or 7TM receptors) are the largest
superfamily of proteins in the body.1,2 Currently, more
than 60% of drugs target GPCRs.
According to this and the documentation I've read... Salvia Divinorum communicates/target the largest superfamily of proteins in the body... considering Salvia Divin(e)orum is used to divine answers ... and has been known to work for many different 'practicioners' ..

Many trips are said to be of geometric shapes and patterns... (some call them sacred, or sacred geometry)

... We should all know that we cannot directly speak to our cells... our languages are barriers... but... IMO... I think that Salvia moves our assemblage point to our cells... or ... well .. not cells.. but to a different awareness.. one which brings up vivid memories of past events in ones life during the 3-4 days after smoking a good session of salvia...
The three to four days following smoking a good session of salvia I found myself having thoughts pop into my head about past events in my life... It's pretty intense stuff...
during the high,. .. its ... so intense and the assemblage point is moved so far, one can barely remember anything... anything one says is usually highly incoherent or unrelatable to anything... but people usually recollect being at a cusp... a decision.. a very pertinant one...
usually with two decisions...
sometimes people skip that phase altogether, and .. perhaps.. 'choose' ... one of the 'directions' ... and end up in a place where colors and shapes and geometric patterns are superimposed or over-layed over your regular 'vision' .. even with eyes open...
or other times... people skip that phase altogether... and are transported places where 'entities' speak to them and give them very life changing advice they can 'never' remember...
people can also ... move the assemblage point or shift it... depending on the person and the dose... but it is very powerful stuff.. and I recommend using it with INTENT... or ... according to silent knowledge..

Perhaps it opens up our mind to scenarios handed to our conciousness through our cells ...

Visualization is amazing.. its a way of communicating knowledge to people subliminally or to communicate concept or knowledge... sort of like a silent play...
or when two people of different languages have to communicate, they have to act out what they are trying to relay.. because words just simply don't work.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8639 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:11:28 +0000 ryan]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8639