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What do you all think about that? I have only had a little success in quieting my internal dialog but in this dream it turned off like nothing.

I believe that I am dreamer, and I would like to know more about it.

I bought some books by theun mares, and I hope that maybe he can clarify a few things.

comments?]]>
What do you all think about that? I have only had a little success in quieting my internal dialog but in this dream it turned off like nothing.

I believe that I am dreamer, and I would like to know more about it.

I bought some books by theun mares, and I hope that maybe he can clarify a few things.

comments?]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8467 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:42:54 +0000 silk underwear boy]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8467
It has come to my attention that some people think lucid dreaming and astral projection are the same thing. Before I go any further... what say you? I'm interested to know.

Silk Under-garments Galore.]]>
It has come to my attention that some people think lucid dreaming and astral projection are the same thing. Before I go any further... what say you? I'm interested to know.

Silk Under-garments Galore.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8485 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 05:16:31 +0000 true]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8485
DJ said becoming a man of knowledge is not a final act or accomplishment. The non-dualists say the same about "enlightenment". We have these ideas and concepts of what liberation is, but they're all wrong. I tell you, nothing changes except your belief, your certainty. "Chop wood, carry water"... have you heard that one? Or Buddha said "Nirvana is samsara; samsara is Nirvana." And DJ says everything is still folly... nothing changes! Things don't stop becoming folly!

Anyway, I had this experience, which is a word that non-dualists wouldn't use because it refers to duality and I'm trying to speak of oneness... an experience stands out from everything else that is not that experience, and this wasn't like that. This had always been and always is and will be. I just hadn't noticed it before. And this direct encounter with reality, what is, actual life... is what gives me this certainty of oneness or non-duality that I toss around here. I don't need anyone to believe me. I just try to appeal to your reason. Oneness is the only fact, or at least the root fact. All duality is description. Oneness seems like a description from the perspective of duality, but it's no different than having to give the nagual a name just so we can talk about it, but it's not an item on the island of the tonal.

Anyway, since this event, my dreams have changed. I don't know if it's for good, but it's been very consistent. Just about every day, every time I'm waking up from slumber, I'm seeing oneness. Sometimes directly, like it's not a dream of oneness - just oneness. But sometimes they're dreams about oneness. And it's fascinating how many different dreams you can have about this one thing. The dream is different each time, but it's clearly an encounter with oneness.

Like this afternoon as I woke up (I work nights) there were two dreams of oneness. One was just like the description of the island of the tonal. There were all these objects, from a car to a planet to a bug, anything, but it was on this table that you couldn't see the edges of, and it was black, like it wasn't there but it was. Come to think of it, all the items were black to, like shiny shadows. And my awareness, the emphasis, was that the table is what all these items share in common.
In the second vision, it was like I was attending all these events that were unique and different in their nature and beliefs and expression, but as I rested into the present of each event, the distinguishing characteristics fell away into oneness and there was no difference. I had the sense of looking through a clear glass that had water spots and dirt in places, but when the glass was cleaned, you couldn't even know that the glass was there.

Anyway, I've been having dreams like this almost every day for about a month. I wake up feeling incredible and alive and happy.]]>
DJ said becoming a man of knowledge is not a final act or accomplishment. The non-dualists say the same about "enlightenment". We have these ideas and concepts of what liberation is, but they're all wrong. I tell you, nothing changes except your belief, your certainty. "Chop wood, carry water"... have you heard that one? Or Buddha said "Nirvana is samsara; samsara is Nirvana." And DJ says everything is still folly... nothing changes! Things don't stop becoming folly!

Anyway, I had this experience, which is a word that non-dualists wouldn't use because it refers to duality and I'm trying to speak of oneness... an experience stands out from everything else that is not that experience, and this wasn't like that. This had always been and always is and will be. I just hadn't noticed it before. And this direct encounter with reality, what is, actual life... is what gives me this certainty of oneness or non-duality that I toss around here. I don't need anyone to believe me. I just try to appeal to your reason. Oneness is the only fact, or at least the root fact. All duality is description. Oneness seems like a description from the perspective of duality, but it's no different than having to give the nagual a name just so we can talk about it, but it's not an item on the island of the tonal.

Anyway, since this event, my dreams have changed. I don't know if it's for good, but it's been very consistent. Just about every day, every time I'm waking up from slumber, I'm seeing oneness. Sometimes directly, like it's not a dream of oneness - just oneness. But sometimes they're dreams about oneness. And it's fascinating how many different dreams you can have about this one thing. The dream is different each time, but it's clearly an encounter with oneness.

Like this afternoon as I woke up (I work nights) there were two dreams of oneness. One was just like the description of the island of the tonal. There were all these objects, from a car to a planet to a bug, anything, but it was on this table that you couldn't see the edges of, and it was black, like it wasn't there but it was. Come to think of it, all the items were black to, like shiny shadows. And my awareness, the emphasis, was that the table is what all these items share in common.
In the second vision, it was like I was attending all these events that were unique and different in their nature and beliefs and expression, but as I rested into the present of each event, the distinguishing characteristics fell away into oneness and there was no difference. I had the sense of looking through a clear glass that had water spots and dirt in places, but when the glass was cleaned, you couldn't even know that the glass was there.

Anyway, I've been having dreams like this almost every day for about a month. I wake up feeling incredible and alive and happy.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8491 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:43:53 +0000 true]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8491
Sorry. Just humor. No post.

Would be a good story though!

Moderator, feel free to 86 this thread.]]>
Sorry. Just humor. No post.

Would be a good story though!

Moderator, feel free to 86 this thread.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8516 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:16:56 +0000 Merged]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8516 https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8533 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:21:15 +0000 regicide]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8533




HE: Where are don Juan and don Genaro right now?

FD: Well... We... I don't think.... hmmmm. I have already, you know? I have already, let's say, I have talked about it already and it doesn't get across quite properly.

They have made the jump into the inconceivable. They have jumped in terms of... if we want to put it in any kind of physical sense... lets say they have made the leap into the unknown. What is ultimately the unknown? Are they stuck in the world of the inorganic beings? We think, yes. So did don Juan finally make it and his group? In a weird way that's... let's say... it's a world of prisoners as our everyday life is. Its another system.

HE: Well the reason I asked you about the energy of us, people listening to you, people who might be trying to increase their energy level, is could you use our energy to rescue don Juan from the world of inorganic beings, as you rescued Carlos from that world.

FD: No, I don't... we don't really know. I think at one time, I think that misunderstanding comes because I thought, let's say, "Yes, if we have enough energy as we leap to pull him out of it", but that's almost like a metaphor, you see? There is... I don't really know what I... in terms of how can... you see, we don't have the lexicon to truly describe even the world of inorganic beings. We describe that world as metaphors, although they're not metaphorical or as something that is already known to us because we don't have the language to describe something that is unknown to us. It can only be described in something that is known. So, yes, on one level, yes. If we have enough energy we could, as we leap, whatever that means, that leap... just lets say formulate... as a physicist you probably know.]]>




HE: Where are don Juan and don Genaro right now?

FD: Well... We... I don't think.... hmmmm. I have already, you know? I have already, let's say, I have talked about it already and it doesn't get across quite properly.

They have made the jump into the inconceivable. They have jumped in terms of... if we want to put it in any kind of physical sense... lets say they have made the leap into the unknown. What is ultimately the unknown? Are they stuck in the world of the inorganic beings? We think, yes. So did don Juan finally make it and his group? In a weird way that's... let's say... it's a world of prisoners as our everyday life is. Its another system.

HE: Well the reason I asked you about the energy of us, people listening to you, people who might be trying to increase their energy level, is could you use our energy to rescue don Juan from the world of inorganic beings, as you rescued Carlos from that world.

FD: No, I don't... we don't really know. I think at one time, I think that misunderstanding comes because I thought, let's say, "Yes, if we have enough energy as we leap to pull him out of it", but that's almost like a metaphor, you see? There is... I don't really know what I... in terms of how can... you see, we don't have the lexicon to truly describe even the world of inorganic beings. We describe that world as metaphors, although they're not metaphorical or as something that is already known to us because we don't have the language to describe something that is unknown to us. It can only be described in something that is known. So, yes, on one level, yes. If we have enough energy we could, as we leap, whatever that means, that leap... just lets say formulate... as a physicist you probably know.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8564 Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:43:29 +0000 smellyfart]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8564 https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8566 Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:42:46 +0000 smellyfart]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8566 ]]> ]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8570 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:25:36 +0000 joyseph]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8570 For instance: last night in one dream I woke up twice (at least) and really thought I was awake ... to the point that I started telling people in my dream what I had been dreaming about in the previous dream inside the dream.

What's up? Anyone have any input?

]]> For instance: last night in one dream I woke up twice (at least) and really thought I was awake ... to the point that I started telling people in my dream what I had been dreaming about in the previous dream inside the dream.

What's up? Anyone have any input?

]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8571 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:35:49 +0000 Nick]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8571 https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8586 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:52:21 +0000 Merged]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8586 https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8603 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:55:52 +0000 blu129]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8603
incidently, do you know, or does anyone know, for that matter, what happened to all the people who were on that site.]]>
incidently, do you know, or does anyone know, for that matter, what happened to all the people who were on that site.]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8604 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:24:55 +0000 ensonar]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8604 dreaming, but it is something I've been curious about for a while.

For a long time, when I have normal dreams, many times I see the dream reflected in waking life sometime within the next few days. Many times it's just little things, sometimes it feels rather drastic.

One of the first times I noticed this was when I had a dream about a person I hadn't seen in several years. The next day I randomly ran into this person while shopping.

Another example of something less drastic would be a night that I dreamt that I was standing on the front part of a small boat, and there was a huge spider's "nest" made out of mud. The next day I found myself standing next to the front part of a boat and there was huge spider web with a spider in the middle attached to the boat. (I don't normally hang around boats).

Also, sometimes I'll dream something and then see it reflected in a film that I've never seen before, a day or two after the dream. For example, I dreamt that I was sinking in a swimming pool with a bunch of other people. As we were sinking I noticed that a guy next to me was masturbating. I could see his orgasm floating up as we all sank. The next day I watched "Y tu mam�¡ tambi�©n" for the first time. There is a scene in the film where two of the main characters were laying on diving boards next to the swimming pool masturbating. When one of them orgasmed, it showed a camera angle from underneath the water watching the orgasm hit the water and sink.

I assure you I do not consider myself "special" because of this. What I am feeling is that this may be more common than many people think. I think it may even explain "deja vu". I also don't in any way think that this implies that things are predetermined or anything like that. I do think that it shows that time can be viewed in a much different way that we are normally aware of.

What do you all think about this, and has anyone else experienced similar things?]]> dreaming, but it is something I've been curious about for a while.

For a long time, when I have normal dreams, many times I see the dream reflected in waking life sometime within the next few days. Many times it's just little things, sometimes it feels rather drastic.

One of the first times I noticed this was when I had a dream about a person I hadn't seen in several years. The next day I randomly ran into this person while shopping.

Another example of something less drastic would be a night that I dreamt that I was standing on the front part of a small boat, and there was a huge spider's "nest" made out of mud. The next day I found myself standing next to the front part of a boat and there was huge spider web with a spider in the middle attached to the boat. (I don't normally hang around boats).

Also, sometimes I'll dream something and then see it reflected in a film that I've never seen before, a day or two after the dream. For example, I dreamt that I was sinking in a swimming pool with a bunch of other people. As we were sinking I noticed that a guy next to me was masturbating. I could see his orgasm floating up as we all sank. The next day I watched "Y tu mam�¡ tambi�©n" for the first time. There is a scene in the film where two of the main characters were laying on diving boards next to the swimming pool masturbating. When one of them orgasmed, it showed a camera angle from underneath the water watching the orgasm hit the water and sink.

I assure you I do not consider myself "special" because of this. What I am feeling is that this may be more common than many people think. I think it may even explain "deja vu". I also don't in any way think that this implies that things are predetermined or anything like that. I do think that it shows that time can be viewed in a much different way that we are normally aware of.

What do you all think about this, and has anyone else experienced similar things?]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8614 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:11:58 +0000 Lilac]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8614
Suddenly there was this young man (I was a young woman) who came with me to the cafeteria of the university. He was cute in the style I like in a man: boyish looking. Had dark hair and unshaven jaw. I said to him that I'm drawn to him and he has energy that holds me. I thought in my head that it would be kind of exciting to have a relationship where there would be no sexual "fullfilment" ever (because it ruines always everything!) All the time he acted innocent and like he would know nothing about any sexual flavor in our meeting, and so I said "have you been living in a monastery?" and left. I wasn't mad or disappointed, although I was curious would he come after me. He didn't.

There was some other things that happened in that dream but I try to make this all a short story... Anyway I woke up and felt necessary to write that dream down. I felt that that young man was kind of "my own Carlos Castaneda" and I was his "Florinda Donner-Grau" - although we weren't actually them. We were our own interpretations about people like them.

After that I went to sleep and had quite annoying dream about an older woman who talked about sex to me and started to act much too fresh with me. I left her and went outside and saw naked women rolling over a street into a watery ditch next to the road.

And then I was aware. I guess it has been almost a year since the last time!

I looked down to my legs and saw that they were fat and I was having a skirt and high heel shoes. I tried to intent my legs thinner, no use. I was in the university again and I decided to look for my nagual man. I decided to call him Jean-Michel. I walked along the passages, there were many people there but I tried not to get into details. I touched the wall and I guess that was a major mistake, because soon after that I saw nothing, everything went black in my eyes. I tried to concentrate to feeling sensations with the walls, so that I wouldn't loose my awareness.

Somehow I managed to get my vision back and I went outside. There was autumn and there were big leafy trees. And an odd big monster standing on the ground. It didn't move and I'm not sure anymore how did it look like, but I think it was mostly a mixture of several animals.

I found "Jean-Michel", although he looked different than in my normal dream earlier. I felt puzzled wether he was really him, and he looked me puzzled and obwiusly thought wether I'm me or not. He told me to kneel before him, and that was because he wanted to examine me somehow. He looked at me or my energy field or something like that, and I felt a bit sorry in my mind that I'm not really young (which is what I looked like in dream and in Dream). Not saying anything he stopped and went to a building nearby. I followed, and saw that in the building there were solders from the ages about 200 years ago. Jean-Michel was talking with one of them. Everything was in black and white, and I started to think am I really aware.

The Dream ended.

***

The funny thing is that lots of years ago I saw a (normal) dream where I got together with Jean-Luc Picard and his crew from Enterprise. Somehow Picard was also Don Juan, and after a dinner party he accepted me into his aprentice, although he felt puzzled about me somehow. I guess it was because I was a bit mad.

Of course I don't believe that I'm actually Don Juan's aprentice! And I don't think there is any nagual for me, old or new. But it's interesting how both of these dream-naguals are "Jeans". I have nothing to do with French or France. (And come to think of it, in one dream where I was in a space ship having a kind of psychical test and saw "living toys"... After the test I went a bit mad and sang Alouette which is a French song.)

Lately I'm been feeling too much frustration and isolation to concider myself being satisfied to be a solo wanna-be witch. Maby this "my own nagual man Dream" is about that.

:lol:]]>
Suddenly there was this young man (I was a young woman) who came with me to the cafeteria of the university. He was cute in the style I like in a man: boyish looking. Had dark hair and unshaven jaw. I said to him that I'm drawn to him and he has energy that holds me. I thought in my head that it would be kind of exciting to have a relationship where there would be no sexual "fullfilment" ever (because it ruines always everything!) All the time he acted innocent and like he would know nothing about any sexual flavor in our meeting, and so I said "have you been living in a monastery?" and left. I wasn't mad or disappointed, although I was curious would he come after me. He didn't.

There was some other things that happened in that dream but I try to make this all a short story... Anyway I woke up and felt necessary to write that dream down. I felt that that young man was kind of "my own Carlos Castaneda" and I was his "Florinda Donner-Grau" - although we weren't actually them. We were our own interpretations about people like them.

After that I went to sleep and had quite annoying dream about an older woman who talked about sex to me and started to act much too fresh with me. I left her and went outside and saw naked women rolling over a street into a watery ditch next to the road.

And then I was aware. I guess it has been almost a year since the last time!

I looked down to my legs and saw that they were fat and I was having a skirt and high heel shoes. I tried to intent my legs thinner, no use. I was in the university again and I decided to look for my nagual man. I decided to call him Jean-Michel. I walked along the passages, there were many people there but I tried not to get into details. I touched the wall and I guess that was a major mistake, because soon after that I saw nothing, everything went black in my eyes. I tried to concentrate to feeling sensations with the walls, so that I wouldn't loose my awareness.

Somehow I managed to get my vision back and I went outside. There was autumn and there were big leafy trees. And an odd big monster standing on the ground. It didn't move and I'm not sure anymore how did it look like, but I think it was mostly a mixture of several animals.

I found "Jean-Michel", although he looked different than in my normal dream earlier. I felt puzzled wether he was really him, and he looked me puzzled and obwiusly thought wether I'm me or not. He told me to kneel before him, and that was because he wanted to examine me somehow. He looked at me or my energy field or something like that, and I felt a bit sorry in my mind that I'm not really young (which is what I looked like in dream and in Dream). Not saying anything he stopped and went to a building nearby. I followed, and saw that in the building there were solders from the ages about 200 years ago. Jean-Michel was talking with one of them. Everything was in black and white, and I started to think am I really aware.

The Dream ended.

***

The funny thing is that lots of years ago I saw a (normal) dream where I got together with Jean-Luc Picard and his crew from Enterprise. Somehow Picard was also Don Juan, and after a dinner party he accepted me into his aprentice, although he felt puzzled about me somehow. I guess it was because I was a bit mad.

Of course I don't believe that I'm actually Don Juan's aprentice! And I don't think there is any nagual for me, old or new. But it's interesting how both of these dream-naguals are "Jeans". I have nothing to do with French or France. (And come to think of it, in one dream where I was in a space ship having a kind of psychical test and saw "living toys"... After the test I went a bit mad and sang Alouette which is a French song.)

Lately I'm been feeling too much frustration and isolation to concider myself being satisfied to be a solo wanna-be witch. Maby this "my own nagual man Dream" is about that.

:lol:]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8619 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:47:32 +0000 ryan]]> https://rojointenso.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=8619