06-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Howdylidoodily!
This topic interests me! A few (possibly contradictory) points.
1. If you've read Papillion or seen the film (with Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman), you might remember when McQueen is stuck in solitary confinement indefinitely and the Warden, before tossing him in there, advises not to waste energy by gratifying himself. He said it would drain his energy. Apparently, they were observant of the past prisoners who had survived the longest. So not wanking is not just applicable to "warriors". It's just that there's an abstract intent behind it for them.
(As a sidenote, I recommend watching or reading that story. Breaking free is its theme- at least for me it was)
2. "Onanism is a hands-on job" - Ghost from Enter the Matrix video game.
3. When I first started trying to Ensonar I had relative success (before the reality of needing to do a thorough Recapitulation became apparent). At that stage I was trying to "not-wank". Sometimes when I would start becoming aware of the items in my dream I would wake up as I ejaculated. I realised then it was like having a wet dream. Funnily enough, at age 22, it was my first ever wet dream! How? You ask. Well, if you looked up "wanker" in the dictionary there should be a photo of me!
What's the point with all this? In "The Power Of Silence" I can't remember the exact quote and you've probably read/heard this before, but Don Juan says something like you either use sexual energy for sex or for dreaming.
The choice is up to us. I guess it depends which voice you listen to...
Disclaimer: The little sobriety I have tells me I should make it clear that I haven't found the answer to the original question of this thread. But I *choose* to keep fighting.
This topic interests me! A few (possibly contradictory) points.
1. If you've read Papillion or seen the film (with Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman), you might remember when McQueen is stuck in solitary confinement indefinitely and the Warden, before tossing him in there, advises not to waste energy by gratifying himself. He said it would drain his energy. Apparently, they were observant of the past prisoners who had survived the longest. So not wanking is not just applicable to "warriors". It's just that there's an abstract intent behind it for them.
(As a sidenote, I recommend watching or reading that story. Breaking free is its theme- at least for me it was)
2. "Onanism is a hands-on job" - Ghost from Enter the Matrix video game.
3. When I first started trying to Ensonar I had relative success (before the reality of needing to do a thorough Recapitulation became apparent). At that stage I was trying to "not-wank". Sometimes when I would start becoming aware of the items in my dream I would wake up as I ejaculated. I realised then it was like having a wet dream. Funnily enough, at age 22, it was my first ever wet dream! How? You ask. Well, if you looked up "wanker" in the dictionary there should be a photo of me!
What's the point with all this? In "The Power Of Silence" I can't remember the exact quote and you've probably read/heard this before, but Don Juan says something like you either use sexual energy for sex or for dreaming.
The choice is up to us. I guess it depends which voice you listen to...
Disclaimer: The little sobriety I have tells me I should make it clear that I haven't found the answer to the original question of this thread. But I *choose* to keep fighting.