01-28-2007, 05:53 PM
I take offense to ANYONE who says that taking any kind of entheogenic substance, or any psychedelic substance is a short-cut... that is utter BS. Only people afraid of them say that kind of shit... It's actually toooo much work...
Those "drugs" force you to deal with very difficult concepts and memories and philosophies it literally changes your internal landscape... and a skilled person can attain great states thru experience and great discipline... so for you to spout off about how its a short-cut is utter garbage to me.
It takes great discipline to get the spirit of Salvia to speak with you and to show you things.. not just any fool can do such things... it TAKES WORK, there are no short cuts taking drugs... only clowns who like to act like a character think they are short-cuts because thats what they were looking for... Try looking with your EYES! and listening with your ears... because everything has a way of communicating with you, and different plants when ingested can give you a great understanding of its view-point and relationship with the world thru its eyes.
Those "drugs" force you to deal with very difficult concepts and memories and philosophies it literally changes your internal landscape... and a skilled person can attain great states thru experience and great discipline... so for you to spout off about how its a short-cut is utter garbage to me.
It takes great discipline to get the spirit of Salvia to speak with you and to show you things.. not just any fool can do such things... it TAKES WORK, there are no short cuts taking drugs... only clowns who like to act like a character think they are short-cuts because thats what they were looking for... Try looking with your EYES! and listening with your ears... because everything has a way of communicating with you, and different plants when ingested can give you a great understanding of its view-point and relationship with the world thru its eyes.