01-03-2008, 11:57 AM
Hey Silk.
I have a copy of Ishmael somewhere, but I haven't read it. Thanks for the link-referral.
Yes (about important humans) it seems since we've acquired self-consciousness (which some religions have interpreted as God intending us to be masters of creation, above everything else.) we've seperated ourselves from the rest of creation, and this seperation is our own downfall. But maybe we're missing something, or mis-using something. I mean this self-consciousness has happened - it must have been spirit's will or whatever you call that (universal intent). So I wonder if we were to do that only to learn a lesson and return to the natural state, or (what seems more likely) that we return with this additional ability - to go back and forth for some reason. Is this about being co-creators with "God"/spirit or something? I guess we just need to use self-consciousness (thinking) strategically, purposefully, intelligently... and rest in the natural state while not using it. As it is, self-consciousness is using us (humanity).
Will you share your understanding of universal intent and obedience to it? How does that unfold for you, practically speaking? In what way can one be disobedient to universal intent, if you think that's possible? (I won't argue with your answers if they differ from mine, but I would point out the perpetuation of a seperative structure if we believe we can be disobedient to universal intent. That would necessitate us being outside of the universe, not to mention more powerful than the universal intent.)
ps. Is the silk underwear a Taoist sexual yoga reference?
I recall reading something from one of Mantak Chia's books about massaging the perineum with silk after orgasm without ejaculation.
I have a copy of Ishmael somewhere, but I haven't read it. Thanks for the link-referral.
Yes (about important humans) it seems since we've acquired self-consciousness (which some religions have interpreted as God intending us to be masters of creation, above everything else.) we've seperated ourselves from the rest of creation, and this seperation is our own downfall. But maybe we're missing something, or mis-using something. I mean this self-consciousness has happened - it must have been spirit's will or whatever you call that (universal intent). So I wonder if we were to do that only to learn a lesson and return to the natural state, or (what seems more likely) that we return with this additional ability - to go back and forth for some reason. Is this about being co-creators with "God"/spirit or something? I guess we just need to use self-consciousness (thinking) strategically, purposefully, intelligently... and rest in the natural state while not using it. As it is, self-consciousness is using us (humanity).
Will you share your understanding of universal intent and obedience to it? How does that unfold for you, practically speaking? In what way can one be disobedient to universal intent, if you think that's possible? (I won't argue with your answers if they differ from mine, but I would point out the perpetuation of a seperative structure if we believe we can be disobedient to universal intent. That would necessitate us being outside of the universe, not to mention more powerful than the universal intent.)
ps. Is the silk underwear a Taoist sexual yoga reference?
I recall reading something from one of Mantak Chia's books about massaging the perineum with silk after orgasm without ejaculation.