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Like you say, there is no purpose. All I can do to describe what drives me is what Carlos called functional purpose, seeing energy. He (or DJ) has said the term sorcery isn't adequate. It means nothing to me.

Before you say I'm just quoting his books or regurgitating what he has said, Tensegrity has given me a glimpse at seeing energy directly. So far it has been fleeting. When I see a portion of the outlines of the luminous egg with my body, the urge of my eyes to take the lead automatically re-engages the interpretation system we are all sick of. Another thing is when it has happened, it had nothing to do with me 'doing' anything, it just happened. It was startling. The feeling it produced was one of longing. It seemed to give me an inkling of what Don Juan was saying about how the bond between a man and woman is superficial (or something like that). The real longing is for the energy body. That's what feels like has awakened or is awakening, or is trying to awaken.

And before you say there is nothing to do in order to awaken, I mean having the courage to 'un-shield' from friends and people around you. For me, people are trimmings. It takes a certain amount of intent to discard most of that. By 'that', I mean dealings with our fellow men. I think it's easy to remain stuck to interaction with discussion about controlled/uncontrolled folly.

I'm reminded of an Al Pacino quote from The Godfather Part III:

"Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in"

The question then remains: After seeing energy, then what? I reckon the act of totally cancelling out this interpretation system would give the answer. Or maybe it wouldn't. I don't know.

Hi forfuckssake.
I hadn't noticed your post earlier. It appears we were posting at the same time and yours snuck in under mine.

By sorcery vs. seeing, I was referring to DJ's definitions, which I've outlined in a topic by that name (sorcery vs. seeing). Sorcery was not an adequate term to describe or encapsulate DJ, yet it does describe a way of knowledge... there are some people who do fit the term "sorcerer" according to the definitions given. But outside of conversation, the name means nothing to me either.

I won't say you're just regurgitating. I was fucking with Bratschewarrior because he was fucking with me. That was our "agreement". I'm not naturally hostile or accusative. I don't really care myself whether people are repeating books or not. I love books. I think it's hypocritical to read books and yet object to people sharing book knowledge - why does it matter? I only bounced that back at Bratschewarrior because it appeared to matter to him/her. I wouldn't say anything like that myself.

"And before you say there is nothing to do in order to awaken..."
I must be sounding like a broken record. You're trying to head me off before I throw my ready-made knowledge at you. I'm really not that way. It's unfortunate if people read my posts to some particular individual and then assume I'll post the same to them. I start fresh each time unless the conversation is building on some particular knowledge or point of contention. I don't know you and I have no prepared plan of where our conversation should lead. I accept whatever you have to say unless I see something that seems contradictory, at which point I may bring it up and see what you have to say. But I'm not interested in proving or disproving anyone. I'm interested in sharing ways to be more aware.

I really like your response. I didn't have any anti-thoughts towards it.

Can you tell me anything more about functional purpose? I'm not familiar with CC's use of that term. Is it synonymous with seeing?
I like the wording. For me, being without knowledge is a state of functional awareness. That is, without past knowledge as a reference, I am functioning in the immediacy of whatever presents itself to my awareness... I am acting directly on what is actually occurring and not re-acting to any mind-knowledge substitutions or projections. And I feel like that is the beginning of seeing. Does that sound like it concurs with you and your experience?

Can you tell me what it was about tensegrity that led to seeing? I mean, do you feel it was the actual exercise, or a state of awareness you fell into during an exercise, or the response to energy freed up by the exercise...? You said tensegrity gave you a glimpse and then you said it had nothing to do with you 'doing' anything. Do I interpret that to mean tensegrity led to an absence of you as "the doer"? I realise that an explanation may not fall simply into one of my questions, but if you can shed any more light on it, I'm interested.