[blu129]

I'm as secretive as I need to be, and because I'm secretive in some aspects people assume I'm bullshitting them all the time.. lol

But really.. I can understand what Don Juan was saying about ditching the shamanism thing... lol heheh Can't you see the recapitulation happening to everyone at every turn... and the self-importance training all around us..? our media sources are stuffed with ... 'training' and lessons and helping... petty tyrants don't need to be sought after thats for sure... Its in our music our tv shows, our movies... its in us.

Theres so many kids out there soooo screwed up due to irratically moving assemblage points... ... whether its drugs or shitty lives.. its all relative, but all of these 'goth' kids.. or cutting kids are just using different methods to move their assemblage points... although laterally, none of them have any of these tools... impeccability, stalking, dreaming.. many of them just Half-assed stalk missing some of the vital parts that make a stalker a master stalker.... and some dreamers are the same.. most are just lucid dreamers who morbidly believe their dream-worlds, and happenings.

Theres major problems .... open your eyes to the intent of freedom.... the world is crying.

Listen to the shaman of the jungle... who are stuck with none of this knowledge, just dreamers.... or just curers, using dreams.. without knowing of any of the other aspects..

The oil companies are destroying their habitat..

and our reason in the west is destroying our habitats .. (our bodies) ourselves..
Finally with quantum physics the west learns about the nagual... be warned they will consume it for their own benefits quickly..

My mission or path has always been freedom, way before I even started reading carlos castaneda... I had serious bouts with death (born with my intestines out, [no belly button, just a scar]) upon entering this world and the spirit helped me tremendously for its purposes not mine... and coincidentally without knowing it, it was freedom.. So I dropped out of school because it wasn't teaching me what I wanted and I couldn't read the books I wanted because I had school to deal with ... so I had to ditch it.. and working was minimal for me... only when needed, I moved away from home at a young age. (15) away from family, which I've never really considered family ... stumbled around the gnostic areas of learning, learned a lot, a lot that I can apply a lot better now with the knowledge I have, because I can see what they were really saying.. without their horrible descriptions, or my horrible bias upon hearing certain words.. or my utter confusion... so I was either always driven by the freedom for my body, or opinions, or my actions... and my side project has always been trying to get other people to seek the same quest, showing them the things I learn how-ever I can, by using as many different outlooks at possible so they can understand its just a description, but I find it hard because my methods have always failed because I never had the tools outlined perfectly by don juan... with those tools I find it almost impossible not to trick someone into seeing the unknown, or feeling it... but I am still so limited because I have only gotten some of those tools recently and you can't perfect what you don't practice... and since I'm so abberated my inventory keeps blocking my progress... so I need to do a proper recapitulation, but I find it somewhat hard, just moving my assemblage point to those times... plus I have very limited time where I am right now.. working on call ..

but I think we should take Don Juans advice and nevermind with the particulars and we should focus on the path.. which is freedom.. the one with the most heart ever... I think it has literally kept me alive... because by all means I should be dead... I mean they poked my intestines back in with the eraser part of a pencil, they all say I should be dead. by all means none of this is for my self importance.. I'm indifferent to myself in most aspects.. just thought you might be interested...
I just think we need to all maybe help all these 'fools' jump into the canyon... so-to-speak.

sounds like youre bullshittting to me.sounds like non existant orgasms to me.

Plus you cant equate the nagual to quantum physics, im sorry, the two arent related. It seems like an intellectualy nice standpoint..bit like CC with the "eagle rule" but im sorry the two arent the same.

Plus quantum physics is largely unknown to the west, i mean alot of it is still philosophical speculation, so the west have no power over it.

i mean yes at the moment our consciousness affects the outcome of an event. Therefore perception based from the piont of view of consciousness (being time honoured) affects the outcome (nature of the universe.) People still have no idea what happens with the two slit (youngs-go ask your physics teacher) experiment, try slowing down a photon of light and see how it behaves..opps try again logical scientific people. I think it one of themost important and insiring points that carlos points out is that perception is subjective, and if youre considering on a quantum level, (yes we're aiming at a description of "'reality'" (notice double indentation!) human peception alters the nature of the experiment ..ie properties and expected behavour of "matter" of the universe then perception and awareness are key components that largely escape scientific or logistically viable explainations.

my personal viewpoint is that- i dont know, i think that scientifically cc steps out as a scientific empirical viewpoint esp in his first book, however he doesnt keep to strict empirical parameters, doesnt explain phemoneological importantly, and i guess its important cc always comes from a social scientific background rather than say, a logical empiricists point of view. this doesnt take away value of his so called findings, ""separate reality." to me though.

I think its cool to say for example to equate the existance of dark matter with the nagual for example. The reason why the universe seems to be expanding rather than slowing down as expected. Ideas include abundance of neutrinos, or an increased amount of bayronic matter in early universe expansion,..gravity waves, (no ones detected this theoretical particle, although it should exist- theyve put up a satellite for this, so well see.) and the important mass of the Tau neutrino as experiments recently show there is evidence if chance of error in its mass.

its also nice to draw parallels with M theory (theory of everything) we're talking the basis if the wests logic here. science being a tool. with DJ quotes of infinate lines of energy (String theory??) if you want to- although this may not bring about a more engaged state of our interation with the nature of the universe (reality.)

another thing is that they say we are a holgraphic projection of the universe based on p branes and m branes, yeah i can imagine equating that to the nagual in my head. to me it seems difficult to equate this to a macroscopic level to a biological awareness ie human. although essentialy the forces and nature of the matter involved are the same. (ontological.)

I wonder if say on an engeretic level if one becomes awareness, say for example, without consciousnness one would engege in the action of percieving "'seeing'"

any opinions??