12-01-2007, 09:50 AM
Greetings ensonar,
Why do you have to interpret and insert meanings into everything? Can't you take something for what it is, it's bare existence, without adding your dialogue to it?
It's just a sincere observation. But, if you remain true to your history, you'll probably read the above and IMAGINE that you've pissed me off.
Can you talk with me without your imagination? I'd prefer it. Why are your feelings about my posts worth something to you?
Here's something new for you (can you consider that everything I say is new and you may be listening with old ears? I bet you've heard that before too. Could it be that just because you heard something or read something, even a hundred times, you may not KNOW it? You may not be APPLYING it?): Try having a conversation without imagining that you know what's happening, that you have any idea who I am or where I'm coming from. Can you just be present with me, first time, never been here before?
If not, we're not having any conversation for me to stick around for. You're talking with your own inner dialogue, not with me.
Listen to this, if you are able to... just listen... don't think, don't think you already know... just listen...
I AM NOT LECTURING, PREACHING OR TEACHING. THOSE ARE PERSONAL, SUBJECTIVELY ASSIGNED ATTRIBUTIONS. YOU ARE TAKING MY POSTS PERSONALLY AS IF THEY ARE TO YOU OR SOMEBODY SPECIFIC. THEY'RE JUST POSTS. I'M SHARING WHAT I HAVE FOUND HELPFUL TO MYSELF.
Now, don't begin to reflect back and study my past posts and point out to me where I'm lecturing and preaching and being personal. Just take me at my word. You don't know anything about me. You don't know anything absolutely. No one does. So would you like to not-do and control your folly, or do you want to think you know something and stay where you feel safe and important?
No one here who has replied to me seems to know how to do that or to be interested in doing that. So if I am not attracted to your boring imaginary projections about me, it doesn't mean anything about feeling hurt or dejected or whether anyone agrees with me. I'm just very real and don't have time for your imagination, or anyone else's.
And in case you didn't know, anything you think you know is your imagination, even if you end up being right about it. As a warrior, you should be so lucky as to never find your feelings confirmed.
Do you get that, or am I wasting our time?
At least answer that last question, since you, and others here, tend to avoid answering any of them. Is it because according to my rules, (and their not mine, nor are they rules) you might have to admit that you are free and have no excuses? You people cling to your books and sorcerers' descriptions and rules because they give you a reason NOT TO BE whatever it is you think you WANT TO BE.
I AM, right now.
What the fuck are you people waiting for? Yes, I know... Don Juan gave you permission to wait. You're a bunch of followers. Drop the games and talk to me. Or you can bore me to death and I'll stop coming around and you can feel better than me since I just couldn't get you guys... I don't get what it's like to be a real warrior, right? I get it fine. I also get that ALL inventory needs to be dropped eventually. How do you know I haven't dropped mine and you're just not there yet? The answer isn't: "Because... x, y, z." The answer is, you don't know.
Can you keep not-knowing? Cause that's what it's like to be a real warrior-seer.
You people know too much for me. I'm not telling you what I know. I'm telling you how I learned to not know. And no one is interested in not-knowing.
And don't argue that if you don't know anything we can't talk. I'm saying drop the useless shit that you think you know... you can maintan the functional portion... just drop the psychological, ego portion.
What is functional? For example, you have to retain knowledge of the language.
What is psychological? For example, that my post "feels" like something; that I "seem" something; that anything you or I say can be interpreted "personally". You don't need the "person" to talk to me about reality.
Do this, and I promise my posts will be short.
But that's all you're interested in...
What'd you say? Less book and more heart? What you want is something personal, and you're asking a non-person to be personal. This isn't mine. But I'm not re-hashing books either. The fact is, you don't know whether I'm being original or not. You can't know. And you should thank the Eagle for that.
If you've seen this "teaching, lecturing syndrome" in others, how is it original to see it in me? You want me to be original, but not yourself? Just let it go. Stop knowing. Stop needing to know. Only the mind gives a shit about knowing, and you're more than that.
Are there any real people here?
As long as you keep offering me your unoriginal internal dialogue externally projected... I'll have to keep offering you my "preaching" to get beyond it.
Would you like to start anew?
Why do you have to interpret and insert meanings into everything? Can't you take something for what it is, it's bare existence, without adding your dialogue to it?
It's just a sincere observation. But, if you remain true to your history, you'll probably read the above and IMAGINE that you've pissed me off.
Can you talk with me without your imagination? I'd prefer it. Why are your feelings about my posts worth something to you?
Here's something new for you (can you consider that everything I say is new and you may be listening with old ears? I bet you've heard that before too. Could it be that just because you heard something or read something, even a hundred times, you may not KNOW it? You may not be APPLYING it?): Try having a conversation without imagining that you know what's happening, that you have any idea who I am or where I'm coming from. Can you just be present with me, first time, never been here before?
If not, we're not having any conversation for me to stick around for. You're talking with your own inner dialogue, not with me.
Listen to this, if you are able to... just listen... don't think, don't think you already know... just listen...
I AM NOT LECTURING, PREACHING OR TEACHING. THOSE ARE PERSONAL, SUBJECTIVELY ASSIGNED ATTRIBUTIONS. YOU ARE TAKING MY POSTS PERSONALLY AS IF THEY ARE TO YOU OR SOMEBODY SPECIFIC. THEY'RE JUST POSTS. I'M SHARING WHAT I HAVE FOUND HELPFUL TO MYSELF.
Now, don't begin to reflect back and study my past posts and point out to me where I'm lecturing and preaching and being personal. Just take me at my word. You don't know anything about me. You don't know anything absolutely. No one does. So would you like to not-do and control your folly, or do you want to think you know something and stay where you feel safe and important?
No one here who has replied to me seems to know how to do that or to be interested in doing that. So if I am not attracted to your boring imaginary projections about me, it doesn't mean anything about feeling hurt or dejected or whether anyone agrees with me. I'm just very real and don't have time for your imagination, or anyone else's.
And in case you didn't know, anything you think you know is your imagination, even if you end up being right about it. As a warrior, you should be so lucky as to never find your feelings confirmed.
Do you get that, or am I wasting our time?
At least answer that last question, since you, and others here, tend to avoid answering any of them. Is it because according to my rules, (and their not mine, nor are they rules) you might have to admit that you are free and have no excuses? You people cling to your books and sorcerers' descriptions and rules because they give you a reason NOT TO BE whatever it is you think you WANT TO BE.
I AM, right now.
What the fuck are you people waiting for? Yes, I know... Don Juan gave you permission to wait. You're a bunch of followers. Drop the games and talk to me. Or you can bore me to death and I'll stop coming around and you can feel better than me since I just couldn't get you guys... I don't get what it's like to be a real warrior, right? I get it fine. I also get that ALL inventory needs to be dropped eventually. How do you know I haven't dropped mine and you're just not there yet? The answer isn't: "Because... x, y, z." The answer is, you don't know.
Can you keep not-knowing? Cause that's what it's like to be a real warrior-seer.
You people know too much for me. I'm not telling you what I know. I'm telling you how I learned to not know. And no one is interested in not-knowing.
And don't argue that if you don't know anything we can't talk. I'm saying drop the useless shit that you think you know... you can maintan the functional portion... just drop the psychological, ego portion.
What is functional? For example, you have to retain knowledge of the language.
What is psychological? For example, that my post "feels" like something; that I "seem" something; that anything you or I say can be interpreted "personally". You don't need the "person" to talk to me about reality.
Do this, and I promise my posts will be short.
But that's all you're interested in...
What'd you say? Less book and more heart? What you want is something personal, and you're asking a non-person to be personal. This isn't mine. But I'm not re-hashing books either. The fact is, you don't know whether I'm being original or not. You can't know. And you should thank the Eagle for that.
If you've seen this "teaching, lecturing syndrome" in others, how is it original to see it in me? You want me to be original, but not yourself? Just let it go. Stop knowing. Stop needing to know. Only the mind gives a shit about knowing, and you're more than that.
Are there any real people here?
As long as you keep offering me your unoriginal internal dialogue externally projected... I'll have to keep offering you my "preaching" to get beyond it.
Would you like to start anew?