12-07-2007, 03:26 AM
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Yes, it's time to sit down and take a look at where our lineage has gone askew!
C'mon, you're not going to tell me that Carlos didn't fuck up. There wasn't much he didn't fuck, according to some sources. B) And then getting creamated from without (as opposed to the fire from within.
heehee!)
Seriously, and don't call me arrogant! Someone's got to do this. So chime in if you have any corrections or amendments to CC's books and/or current day so-called warriors.
#1 - I think we need to realise that these books contained information given specifically to Carlos Castaneda from a sorcerer-seer-warrior-stalker. I know that you know that, but to realise it means that you're aware that DJ is going to say whatever he has to to get CC to get it. And that means he's going to tap into CC's tonal to find out how to stalk and teach him. Remember at the fire with the apprentices they ran into looking for crystals, and DJ went behind the rock and came out and each one saw something different because he tapped each of their tonals?
Anyway, you have to seriously consider that some things in the book were specifically for CC's personality and temperament (I checked the spelling, BratscheWarrior. I know! It looks funny. ) and that they may be useless (or moot! :lol: ) to someone of a different temperament.
Not everyone needs to go hunting.
Not everyone needs power plants.
Not everyone has to talk to plants...
DJ, as a warrior-seer, is so spontaneous and present that he can pick up on anything and immediately improvise a not-doing or whatever is needed to hook CC. And we're sitting there reading and taking notes for ourselves:
"b-u-y a-n e-l-e-p-h-a-n-t g-u-n..."
"s-m-o-k-e m-o-r-e w-e-e-d..."
"s-t-a-r-t t-a-l-k-i-n-g t-o p-l-a-n-t-s..."
:lol:
So some things obviously apply to anyone seeking to become a seer or warrior. But some things were specific tasks designed specifically for CC's tonal and written into the books as if for anyone.
Your tonal may be imbalanced in a totally different way than CC's.
CC didn't claim that these books are a "How-to" manual!
So Newer Seers rule #1:
CC's books are not "The Holy Bible of Nagualism"
nor are they "The Complete Works on Nagualism"
Newer Seers rule #2:
Self-importance isn't THAT important!
What I mean is that it's not so important that you get absorbed in recognizing it in everyone and in yourself. Notice it, sure. But don't be a fanatic.
We have to seek the root. That should be a common theme: "seek the root".
What is the root... why was the task of eliminating self-importance assigned? Because it was seen that self-importance is the greatest consumer of energy.
So the point, the emphasis, the root, is to save energy!
Don't get hooked on self-importance! That doesn't save energy! Self-importance is a means, not the goal! Do you hear what I'm saying? Self-importance has become something ugly, a sin, an evil-doing! Don't do that. That doesn't save energy.
Self-importance isn't important. The important thing is saving energy.
Self-importance just happens to be the greatest expenditure of energy among humans. That was seen, without emotions, without judgement.
They didn't see that self-importance was bad!
They didn't see that no one should ever be self-important!
They saw that it consumes enormous amounts of energy. That's all.
Don't mistake the woods for the trees.
(I have no idea what that means. It seemed appropriate. :unsure: )
Anyone else got some insights?
Yes, it's time to sit down and take a look at where our lineage has gone askew!
C'mon, you're not going to tell me that Carlos didn't fuck up. There wasn't much he didn't fuck, according to some sources. B) And then getting creamated from without (as opposed to the fire from within.
heehee!) Seriously, and don't call me arrogant! Someone's got to do this. So chime in if you have any corrections or amendments to CC's books and/or current day so-called warriors.
#1 - I think we need to realise that these books contained information given specifically to Carlos Castaneda from a sorcerer-seer-warrior-stalker. I know that you know that, but to realise it means that you're aware that DJ is going to say whatever he has to to get CC to get it. And that means he's going to tap into CC's tonal to find out how to stalk and teach him. Remember at the fire with the apprentices they ran into looking for crystals, and DJ went behind the rock and came out and each one saw something different because he tapped each of their tonals?
Anyway, you have to seriously consider that some things in the book were specifically for CC's personality and temperament (I checked the spelling, BratscheWarrior. I know! It looks funny.
) and that they may be useless (or moot! :lol: ) to someone of a different temperament. Not everyone needs to go hunting.
Not everyone needs power plants.
Not everyone has to talk to plants...
DJ, as a warrior-seer, is so spontaneous and present that he can pick up on anything and immediately improvise a not-doing or whatever is needed to hook CC. And we're sitting there reading and taking notes for ourselves:
"b-u-y a-n e-l-e-p-h-a-n-t g-u-n..."
"s-m-o-k-e m-o-r-e w-e-e-d..."
"s-t-a-r-t t-a-l-k-i-n-g t-o p-l-a-n-t-s..."
:lol:
So some things obviously apply to anyone seeking to become a seer or warrior. But some things were specific tasks designed specifically for CC's tonal and written into the books as if for anyone.
Your tonal may be imbalanced in a totally different way than CC's.
CC didn't claim that these books are a "How-to" manual!
So Newer Seers rule #1:
CC's books are not "The Holy Bible of Nagualism"
nor are they "The Complete Works on Nagualism"
Newer Seers rule #2:
Self-importance isn't THAT important!
What I mean is that it's not so important that you get absorbed in recognizing it in everyone and in yourself. Notice it, sure. But don't be a fanatic.
We have to seek the root. That should be a common theme: "seek the root".
What is the root... why was the task of eliminating self-importance assigned? Because it was seen that self-importance is the greatest consumer of energy.
So the point, the emphasis, the root, is to save energy!
Don't get hooked on self-importance! That doesn't save energy! Self-importance is a means, not the goal! Do you hear what I'm saying? Self-importance has become something ugly, a sin, an evil-doing! Don't do that. That doesn't save energy.
Self-importance isn't important. The important thing is saving energy.
Self-importance just happens to be the greatest expenditure of energy among humans. That was seen, without emotions, without judgement.
They didn't see that self-importance was bad!
They didn't see that no one should ever be self-important!
They saw that it consumes enormous amounts of energy. That's all.
Don't mistake the woods for the trees.
(I have no idea what that means. It seemed appropriate. :unsure: )
Anyone else got some insights?