seeing oneself

Does anyone recollect from readings (or know from experience) if a socerer ever sees himself? How? etc. …

joyseph

7 Commentsto seeing oneself

  1. BratscheWarrior dice:

    You Will Die.

  2. joyseph dice:

    Isn’t that just grand!? Could you back that assertion up with some references … or with anything?

  3. BratscheWarrior dice:

    It’s in one of the books. Don Juan says something like “A sorcerer who sees himself is a dead sorcerer.” i think it has to do with seeing the totality of oneself which happens at the moment of a person’s death.

  4. DrakeWan dice:

    no…
    I think you still don’t have an educated grasp on this yet.. so I was hoping you would allow my thoughts to float in the void between yourself and I.

    You are a mass amount of conciousness…. which is bound together to BE itself.
    a kingdom divided against itself will fall so it organised itself with government and citizens and the whole nine-yards….
    in super-position if one of the seemingly seperate “unit” was measured or taken a-part from the “rest” it would collapse unto the one “visually-single” unit.

    What I’m saying is… if you saw what you were, you would in essence be a seperate entity aside from your physical being….. You would be like a cellular day-dream…
    This is hard to explain without perhaps the magic of holly-wood… lol 😉

    If you were to look at yourself, .. it would be a shell of what holds the real you…
    so its a paradox.. or something like that.. nevermind cellular conciousness or atomic conciousness… think of energy conciousness.

  5. joyseph dice:

    thank you, drakewan. i actually believe i understand you … insofar as one understands anything.
    :huh:

    joyseph

  6. DrakeWan dice:

    also try to look at it like this..

    if you separated from your body, and were looking at it from a distance, 2-5 feet…
    you are no longer your body, right?… you are…. nothing? observation? that isn’t relevant right now..

    Think of this now… Your body is vaporized right in front of YOU… ARE YOU DEAD?

    By all means YES, you no longer have a “shell” anymore … sure you were able to keep some sort of “form” or consciousness but you do not have the unique type of consciousness that a human can and does have.

  7. joyseph dice:

    How ‘bout this:

    Lots of people have been dead and have recovered from it. Even don Juan.