Death of Castaneda

Hey. I have just read that Carlos Castaneda died during the writing of “Tales of Power” & that he had a student who took on his name & wrote the remaining books (The Nagual network) Can anyone spread some light on this?

22 Commentsto Death of Castaneda

  1. ensonar dice:

    The walrus was Carlos

  2. BratscheWarrior dice:

    i’ve heard the same thing. And i’m betting from the same person. Ask yourself this: What does it matter in the grand scheme of things? If he did die then, will it affect how you live your life now?

    and no. Carlos was a beaver.

  3. joyseph dice:

    Well, if it is true, then I’ll be damned but someone is a really good copy of Castaneda’s prose style. The writing was seamless to me. Of course, if you are writing like a sorcerer, then maybe that’s the way you write. But Tolkien’s son and Herbert’s son can’t write like their dads, and you can tell in a cartoon when the writers have changed — that’s not very much prose to go on at all! Pelch, I say — if it were true, someone would have proved it by analysis of style.

  4. Nick dice:

    Well I suppose I am being a bit of a fart about it. 😆

  5. smellyfart dice:

    [url=http://www.warriorskeep.com/freedom_vs_shamanism.html]http://www.warriorskeep.com/freedom_vs_shamanism.html[/url]

    check this out and tell me what you think guys and (gals?) 😉

    Why can’t we all get along?

  6. BratscheWarrior dice:

    Well you can choose to believe this person or you can believe without believing. As for this article, the only redeeming thing in it is that Castaneda view of Don Juan’s teachings. He was interested (at least at first) in shamanism, power plants and not freedom…That’s why Don Juan had to do all the pseudo-indian crap (his words) that makes up the bulk of the first book.

    Everything else in the article, i don’t believe. And how can Don Juan be the last of his lineage? He was 4 sided. He can only continue. 3-siders like Castaneda are capable only of closing.

  7. Nick dice:

    “Despite his own apparent inconsistencies and fears, Carlos Castaneda endeavoured to provide himself and others with a vision of energetic mystery and magnificence that was in direct opposition to the bleak offerings of our social paradigm and its mode of energetic imprisonment. His willingness to take a stand against the forces of those who sought to manipulate his energy into the distorted patterns that they had embraced in their own fear was a true act of courage. I publicly offer my thanks to him and his associates. They have pushed the door open a little bit further for all of us.
    The abundance of resentment, anger, fear and argument that has ensnared many since his departure, however, is directly attributable to the erroneous belief that he, his associates, and other related agencies have left a trail of victims. Nothing could be further from the truth. Every person that seeks a scapegoat for their own shortcomings or lack of self-awareness is a person who has not learned to accept full responsibility for their current energetic state, including their thoughts, beliefs, fears and actions (or lack thereof)”

    Matt Guest – The Face of Power

  8. smellyfart dice:

    ditto 😆

  9. ensonar dice:

    “Despite his own apparent inconsistencies and fears, Carlos Castaneda endeavoured to provide himself and others with a vision of energetic mystery and magnificence that was in direct opposition to the bleak offerings of our social paradigm and its mode of energetic imprisonment. His willingness to take a stand against the forces of those who sought to manipulate his energy into the distorted patterns that they had embraced in their own fear was a true act of courage. I publicly offer my thanks to him and his associates. They have pushed the door open a little bit further for all of us.
    The abundance of resentment, anger, fear and argument that has ensnared many since his departure, however, is directly attributable to the erroneous belief that he, his associates, and other related agencies have left a trail of victims. Nothing could be further from the truth. Every person that seeks a scapegoat for their own shortcomings or lack of self-awareness is a person who has not learned to accept full responsibility for their current energetic state, including their thoughts, beliefs, fears and actions (or lack thereof)”

    Matt Guest – The Face of Power

    Very well spoken! Have you read that book? I’ve never heard of the author before.

  10. Nick dice:

    No. I have it on order from a local bookshop. The author is new to me as well. Here is a link.

    [url=http://www.thelightbody.com/index.php?pg=4]http://www.thelightbody.com/index.php?pg=4[/url]

    Blackbeard (Or Abe) has posted a reveiw on his Twilight Zone site under the sweet dreams heading. 🙂

  11. Merged dice:

    Carlos Castaneda supposedly died on April 27th, 1998. Not much is known about his death.

    Tales of Power was published in 1975.

    Now even is Castaneda died sometime before 98, it was indeed much later than 1975, as there is VIDEO footage of Castaneda in the 80 and 90’s. Watch “Tales Of The Jungle” documentary. you can find it on google video or You Tube.

    Whoever gave you this piece of information decieved you (or was decieved themselves). But I think the biggest deciever here is the person to themselves who believed this information without staring at the common sence facts staring us straight in the face. 😉

  12. Merged dice:

    The only problem with this theory…..

    Is that there are people such as Carlos x-wife Margaret and son CJ who have known Carlos since the 60’s ( Margaret even knew Carlos in the 50’s ) and both have seen Carlos over the years…the last time being in 1995.
    They knew Carlos well….to believe the statement of a stranger making wild claims about Carlos is stupid.
    Carlos did not die during Tales of Power. Do you think a fake Carlos then took over? and he fooled the many people who have known Carlos ( like Margaret & CJ ) ? RUBBISH!

    Why are people quick to believe outlandish claims about Carlos without a shred of proof?

    Just about everything claimed or stated at sustained action is a lie. Don’t believe any of it. Those people there have their reasons to lie and mislead you.

    The book by Amy Wallace is made up. Made up to cash in…to make money. Carlos never had sex with her or any other woman since the 60’s…I know this for a fact.

    IGNORE every single book written about Carlos of this knowledge by other authors….they are all fakes….all of them.

    STICK to the books written by Carlos Castaneda.

  13. BratscheWarrior dice:

    YES!!!! Why let yourself be open to interpretations of original work? It’s just like the different versions of the bible. Every author makes their own interpretation and people follow it. How fucked up is that!

    Do you know how many times that i’ve been told that i’m close-minded after discussing (indirectly of course) the Path? No, i should read books about chi, tarot, alchemy, witchcraft, philosophy…I used to be into philosophy, but i realized that it was just weird to follow some dork’s ideas when the directives of the Spirit were all that mattered. And Castaneda’s books are a blueprint for most things on the Path. Sure, not everything is clear as we’d like it to be, his writing can be very abstract. Questions are answered in a non-direct way or turn into an answer to another question. Why respond to this in our usual fashion of having to know everything about what happened or why it happened. Why can’t we just do? Why go to another author whose motives are suspicious? Are they warriors/seers/sorcerers? If you wanted to learn how to play the piano, would you go to law school?

  14. Merged dice:

    You sound like an avid fan. I would not worry about that crap. Stop obsessing about the man and start living the teachings.

  15. BratscheWarrior dice:

    i’m agreeing with you. i stopped obsessing long ago.

    And are you copying Nick now?

  16. smellyfart dice:

    I feel that it is necessary to step outside the teachings from time to time in order to get our bearings and remember that this path is only one of an infinite amount of perspectives. Remember that CC’s books are a chronicle of ONE mans quest for knowledge; his battles, his predilections, his shields. Don Juan, under the unction of the abstract molded his approach to fit CC. I believe in these books there is a blue print that we can all follow but ULTIMITLY it is the Spirit that leads us down our own path.

  17. BratscheWarrior dice:

    Hmmm….you contradict yourself there fartman. By stepping out of the teachings, you are stepping out of sync with the Spirit. There is only one path, one way…the Warrior’s Way.Yes, it is true that we lead different lives, but fundamentally, we all have to do the same thing (recapping/tensegrity/stalking,etc…).

    Why would you want to open yourself up to all the fucked up paths the world has to offer? Is that your definition of an open mind? To take your ideas from many disciplines, religions, philosophies and make them your own?

    Dr. Castaneda’s chronicles are one man’s quest. And yet, is it not also the chronicle of Don Juan, Don Genaro, La Gorda, Pablito, Nestor, the Little Sisters, Taisha Abelar, Florinda, Carol Tiggs etc…?

  18. smellyfart dice:

    Please, allow me to clarify myself. What I meant to say is that I find it most benificial to remind myself that this path is not for everybody, and that some people find their Path with Heart doing other things. One path can’t be intrinsically better than the other (better for who)? That is just a facet of self-reflection. In addition when I read accounts of people’s descriptions of the same phenomonea I see that ultimately we are dealing with SOME of the same things interpretated differently. Knowing that helps to loosen my inventory up.

    When I began forging my path, like most people, I became obsessed with CC’s life. I wanted (and still do to some extent) to re-create his life in a misguided attempt at reproducing his experiences. That’s bullshitt. The way forward for me is in Intending, not thru dogmatical adherence. The basics are there, a path to Spirit. But who knows what awaites us once we become aware of It.

    Oh and thanks for reminding myself what a smelly turd-fart I am.
    I’m working on that ; :unsure:

  19. ensonar dice:

    I feel that it is necessary to step outside the teachings from time to time in order to get our bearings and remember that this path is only one of an infinite amount of perspectives.

    I read lots of other books besides Castaneda, for a few different reasons.

    I wouldn’t want to just read only Castaneda all the time and nothing else. That, for me, turns it into boring repetition. That and I feel that it helps to step outside of the books now and then in order to allow them some time to sink in even more deeply. Plus everything I read, listen to, watch or view is colored by the nagual. And so I am constantly linking things together, and at the same time seeing the unnecessary for what it is. In this way I’m able to find amazement in many many things.

    I think another accurate way of putting it is to say that I look into other areas for a momentary distraction. It helps to break any obsessiveness I may be harboring.

  20. smellyfart dice:

    I couldn’t have said what I wanted to say in a worse way. But I don’t see eye to eye with you yet on one issue. Why can’t reading books by other Toltec authors impart to you knowledge? Isn’t knowledge, knowledge, even from someone claiming to be someone he is not? And what about the nagual Julian? Didn’t he fall short. I suppose it depends on what one wants. If one would rather sit on one’s couch and be content with that then DO it. Just try to do it impeccably. And if one can’t do it impeccably, pray that nothing comes along and destroys the little world you’ve created. And the answer to your question is; YES I WANT A SHORTCUTT :blink: And I’ve been knocking myself out trying to find one. But maybe the universe didn’t create a shortcut for me after all. CRIPES!

  21. Nick dice:

    Why can’t reading books by other Toltec authors impart to you knowledge?

    Hello S F
    In my opinion you do not need to ask that question. You are the authority in your life, you should read what you want and not worry what others think. Knowledge is power no matter how it is acquired. If something inspires you then it is good for you. I believe that the spirit has led me to certain books, and I would have been a fool to pass them by just because they did not have the words Carlos Castaneda printed on them.

  22. smellyfart dice:

    But in the beggining; God created the heav… Oh wait. Sorry. In the beginning of learning anything I admit a compulsion to wanting to shut out anxillary interpretations to the subject at hand. You know. Later I feel more freedom to explore. The hard part I suppose is knowing when one has a firm grasp and can afford too. Being a block-head I try to move slowly, but sometimes it’s just soo tantilizing….